Breeders left with growing puppies during lockdown

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Responsible breeders have been left with litters of growing puppies that potential new owners would find it difficult to commit to. Screen shot from today’s Times newspaper.

Pre corona we would have been looking to get a puppy this year, though we hadn’t started seriously looking. All plans are on hold, now. The last thing we’d want or need if we went down with CV19 is a young puppy, though ironically, of course, we like most folk now have more time than ever at home to settle a new pup in.

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As I said on another thread, there were people with litters on the ground or cooking that couldn't help it when the shit hit the fan.
My friend had a bitch who whelped 11 on Saturday night and it's quite full-on breeding, not for pet homes.

What boggles my mind now is people on my FB advertising upcoming matings or their dogs at stud, because they're a bit short on cash!! Who will be travelling? Who will have the money to spend? Will they be allowed to export?

I do wonder the implications on showing or sports also, especially with age-appropriate qualifications (dog must have attained such and such by a certain age). Not important in the grand scheme of things of course but something I've thought about.
 
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I have a friend that travelled out of area, with her family, to view a litter and left a deposit last week.

So even in these times there are still muppets willing to bring strangers into their homes and people willing to go to the homes of strangers, repeatedly, to get a puppy.

I'm guessing "puppy farmer"/out to make money/mate anything breeders will still be shifting pups and theres no shortage of eejit buyers.
 
I'm trying to work out what the hell is going on over here regarding this as currently there are 15,250 puppies for sale on the free ads site Le Bon Coin and over 10,000 kittens.
Considering we are all on lockdown with essential travel only I'm not sure how the ones that are ready to leave are all going to new homes . There has been no reduction in numbers as far as I can see, or price, and nobody is saying that they can't be picked up or transport arranged to deliver. It's very weird
 
Am I hearing right that people are taking on dogs in droves in France because it means they can get out of the house?

An acquaintance of mine at the yard is talking about rescuing, she just lost her dog and fears her oh will go into a slump without a reason to leave the house.
 
The dogs wanted bit in preloved is bursting at the seams.
I think, from looking at a gundog forum I’m on, you can still collect your pre ordered pup as long as social distancing is adhered to.
 
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I did wonder about this. A friend who’d booked a pup on the continent has had to cancel due to not being allowed to travel.
 
CorvusCorax said:
I do wonder the implications on showing or sports also, especially with age-appropriate qualifications (dog must have attained such and such by a certain age). Not important in the grand scheme of things of course but something I've thought about.
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No comment from the KC yet about things like Junior Warrants or Crufts qualification, people are getting very frothy about it. I'm really not sure what would be a fair solution.

Last weekend would have been our breed club show, small dog's last show in junior at 18 months to the day, and this weekend would have been his KC agility debut. As you say, completely unimportant compared to everything else going on but I am sad to be missing his 'baby steps', so to speak. And there's only so much I can do to keep up at home when the lawn is exactly 6 weaves long. :p

Biggest issue with collecting a puppy at the moment will be vaccinations, took a hell of a lot of abuse about that decision in my last week at work.
 
I know of people who were building show teams for this year and were expecting to clean up. Why I prefer to focus on one dog at a time and not count my chickens and focus on one dog at a time.

I think in terms of qualifiers, for big shows and trials, with the expected revenue loss these organisations are going to have to bear, I'd say a lot of regulations will have to be relaxed, the more the merrier, within reason, if and when things start to stabilise.

A lot of organisations would also do well to take stock of what their purpose is and what they stand for!!
 
We had already arranged to take on a kitten, before this started. She'd been born, and we'd said we would have her. She'll be ready end of April. She lives on OH's route home from work, with someone he works with, but...? What do you do? I think current plan is to drop off the carrier the day before, PayPal the money, and ring when outside, then pick up the carrier from outside the door. Then there's the no vaccination situation. She'll stay indoors obviously, but we go out, the dog goes out... stuff comes in on shoes/paws.
 
My dog, who came from a working sheep farm was already vaccinated by the farmer who refused to pay for individual puppy jabs and so bought the vaccines and did it himself. Maybe that would be an answer in the current climate, they also did the micro chipping themselves.
 
@blackcob I’m sorry for being a lazy bugger, I should ring my vets, but my lot have their boosters due in May - I assume I just wait and get them done when I’m allowed?

The Kennel Club haven’t even managed to register Ace yet ? or answer my question about what he can do when he is registered ? although amazingly they DID manage to take the registration fee on the day they received the forms..... ?

ETA - cancel Crufts. It’s so much easier ???
 
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My dog, who came from a working sheep farm was already vaccinated by the farmer who refused to pay for individual puppy jabs and so bought the vaccines and did it himself. Maybe that would be an answer in the current climate, they also did the micro chipping themselves.
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Can normal people get hold of vaccinations? That would be the obvious answer for vets - but most people wouldn't know how to jab the animal.
 
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Lev, best to speak to your own vet but ours are saying it's fine to go up to 15 months. No doubt there'll be a catch-up program in place once restrictions are lifted. :)

Nobody can or should be obtaining their own vaccinations, I've heard it all now. Please call your vet for advice, they will still be there (possibly rocking in a corner, but they will answer the phone...!)
 
We asked the vet - they said no vaccs for however long this lasts. That could be interesting if we get to six months or so - nice resurgence in disease likely there. Horse vets still advised to do tetanus boosters...
 
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Lev, best to speak to your own vet but ours are saying it's fine to go up to 15 months. No doubt there'll be a catch-up program in place once restrictions are lifted. :)

Nobody can or should be obtaining their own vaccinations, I've heard it all now. Please call your vet for advice, they will still be there (possibly rocking in a corner, but they will answer the phone...!)
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I don’t know all the regulations but after I got my dog I took him to my vets to have him scanned and he was happy that his vaccinations were done and recorded. He said it was unusual but no reason why it couldn’t be done. Maybe it helped that he was a farmer and so vaccinated his sheep etc.
 
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Lev, best to speak to your own vet but ours are saying it's fine to go up to 15 months. No doubt there'll be a catch-up program in place once restrictions are lifted. :)

Nobody can or should be obtaining their own vaccinations, I've heard it all now. Please call your vet for advice, they will still be there (possibly rocking in a corner, but they will answer the phone...!)
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Thanks BC ? I’ll ring my lovely vets a bit nearer the time, the dogs only need doing for Lepto this year - Marty and Ace were only started with Lepto 4 last year as well so they had the 2 injections. Sorry, I know I shouldn’t ask you on here ?

(which of course means I know perfectly well I should ring my own vets but I asked you instead because I’m a lazy sod! ????)
 
Sorry, last bit was aimed at another poster in case it wasn't clear. ;) I absolutely don't mind being asked but am just conscious of not contradicting advice from vets, LOL. I've had a similar response approved and on copy/paste to clients for the last two weeks on this one though so I'm happy to carry on spouting it until the RCVS change their guidance.

I can only guess but I think primary puppy vaccines will have to be reinstated if this goes beyond the three week period.
 
I’m guessing x rays are out of the question? Bear is very lame, hurt himself today. He’s had Rimadyl, but I’d like him looked at and an ongoing issue exacerbating it will require x rays, I think. Obviously I’ll phone my vet first thing.
 
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I’m guessing x rays are out of the question? Bear is very lame, hurt himself today. He’s had Rimadyl, but I’d like him looked at and an ongoing issue exacerbating it will require x rays, I think. Obviously I’ll phone my vet first thing.
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Worth speaking to your own vet but I think many are only seeing emergencies.
 
Anyone I know booked in for x-rays for HD/ED testing has had their appointment cancelled as it's 'not essential/emergency' but not sure what would happen in your case, suppose you'll only find out if you ring and ask.
 
I can dose him up on Rimadyl and they know me well enough to prescribe more. Poor little man is lame as anything. We suspected elbow dysplasia or a shoulder issue, I think he’s got a mechanical lameness which has been made to look worse today when he’s obviously twanged it.
 
I know a couple of breeders who have litters, one is now 8 weeks, all sold but can't go anywhere, others are just a couple of weeks old so breeder is keeping fingers crossed. I have seen an alleged directive from Defra, stating that licensed breeders can deliver puppies but they cannot be collected. It is being pointed out that yet again this is helping the puppy farmers and commercial breeders and not the smaller breeders who are generally the better ones. Apart from anything else the delivery thing is a bit crazy as people often travel a long way for the right pup. My last litter one went to Spain, the rest were a good distance apart round the UK, not sure who would have looked after animals at home while I was delivering those !
 
A lot of puppies could benefit from being with their siblings until 12 weeks as long as the breeder works hard to socialise them in other ways.

This isn't the end of the world.
In some ways they are better off with the company of other dogs learning to interact as dog's given these restrictions are likely to continue for some time..... then as solo creatures in new homes that may not reflect their life as adults dogs(how many of these pups are going to end up with separation anxiety etc from never being alone as youngsters etc)
They also cant be vaccinated at the moment either.

Pretty sure a pet transport company would be able to move pups to a new home though. Its not unusual to see animals including pups transported via companies and flights here in oz due to the distances involved between states

there has been an absolute surge in demand for puppies here though! despite the restrictions on movement. Many people see it as an idea time to take on a pup as they will be home for training....and with careful training to avoid seperation anxiety carefully socialise etc...its not the worst idea in the world...if done by a responsible person whos aware of the need to train them to be alone,expose to sounds textures etc. Mine wont be going to new homes until 10 to 12 weeks though as want to get two vaccines on board in case our lock-down scales up. Thankfully myself and her coowner see eye to eye on this sort of stuff!
 
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A Lady i know... Saying no names!! but it isn't me!! is driving 2 ours to pick up a pup. then has tracked down a vet (45mins from her house) that is willing to do a vaccine.

I just do not understand why some people think the rules don't apply to them?
 
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