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Last year my WB mare went to stud. She was inseminated through AI 3 times without success. The stud she was at couldn't find anything wrong with her- her ovaries looked normal on the scans and she as normal seasons.

Thing is i'd really love to have a foal from her as she has fantastic breeding, THE best temperament and has competed successfully. She is now 14 so should i give her another chance and have the vet check her out? Will the vet be able to see anything wrong? or should i just leave it and accept its not meant to be?
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The other thing is that the stud said she might get in-foal through natural covering, but i want to put her to a decent stallion and i can't find a decent WB stallion that does natural coverings
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Advice please.
 
You can't find a decent warmblood who does natural coverings?? There are lots of Cleveland Bay stallions who do natural coverings.

Please stop groaning everyone!
 
AI simply did not work for Amy - tried 5 bloomin times. Natural covering worked 1st time. So definately worth a try.
 
Proset does natural... you could have a Troy brother or sister
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Seriously though, I think there are some nic ones out there that do natural, but you obviously have to work around their competition schedules.
 
This is the thing! When my best friend had her on loan before i bought her she was kept near a stallion. When she came into season she jumped the electric fence and then tried breaking down the post and rail fence trying to get to him
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so shes definitely up for it. The stud said she would most likely get in-foal naturally as they couldn't find anything wrong with her.

If anyone knows of any nice WBs that do natural coverings in the Midlands please let me know
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Fresh, stallion was on site, got him on dummy and voila.

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So doesn't he cover naturally????
 
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Was she AI's with fresh or frozen semen?

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That makes a big difference! If it was frozen then possibly you had a bad straw or your vet missed ovulation.
 
The biggest trouble with frozen is it's short shelf life once it has thawed. The other issue is that some semen is just not great at dealing with being frozen.

However if it was fresh then what was the conception percentage rate of the stallion you used?

I have to say, this is why I like to pasture breed as everything just comes together at totally the right moment.
 
Thanks Becki, im very interested in ProSet if he does natural covering! I've always liked him since i saw him at the Equine Event a few years ago.

Did Hannah go to Meadow Stud? What are they like there?
 
He was a really good success rate.

I agree with you, its how nature intended after all. The stud also said they had some mares like it before where they don't get in-foal AI but do straight away naturally, prehaps its something psychological
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No I don't think it is psychological to be honest, although who knows for sure. I think when you are pasture breeding the mare knows exactly when the time is right. Everything is at the perfect moment and as the stallion will have been wandering around after her for a couple of days previously, he is only too keen to jump on the moment she tells him it is right, LOL!!
 
Hannah was done by frozen at a stud near me, but I was thinking of taking her down there if the AI did not work. They are very helpful over the phone, and Britt is just lovely. Trying to get hold of her at the moment to tell her Pro has a new son, but not heard back yet!

He definitely covers naturally, I am pretty sure...
 
Mo went to be covered naturally but the stallion was too green for a maiden & frightened her. In the end after a lot of faffying about she went to my vets who scanned her everyday, they then worked out when she was ready. I drove to the collection centre drove back with the goods & she was inseminted same day. She was scanned the next day to make sure she had ovulated, which she did & that was that one mare in-foal. She stayed for a couple more days just to check that the uterus did not fill up with too much fluid. If I had gone this route in the 1st place I would have saved myself a lot of money!!
 
did they check the viability before inseminating her or just whack it in?did she have a next day scan to check if she threw up fluid and if she did did she have any oxytocin to clear it?
older mares are more difficult to get in foal.
AI is often more sucessful, depending on the CENTRE and stallion you use and how the semen is handled.
some stallions dont do natural as they are deemed too valuable.
as they could not find anything wrong with the mare i would either look at the centre and its sucess rates or the actual stallion-some do fire blanks you know!


personally i would send her to a first rate AI centre have a full breeding work up done on her and go from there.
it could be she has an infection or a poor quality uterus (which she needs biopsies taken to show)
some mares appear fine on every test but still dont concieve for some reason, which we have to accept, but at this stage i wouldnt write her off.
AI with a poor stallion or a bad centre(you need one with at least an 85% sucess rate and check they take older mares and have sucess too as they are more difficult!) is a waste of money.
 
My mare's in foal to Carnaval Pleasure (C.Drum's son) but they did fresh insemination when she went to Pembers last year. I was a bit surprised but they don't seem to do natural covering with any of the boys there now. . . .
 
I had a mare who came to me in September last year, they had tried all season to get her in foal to a different stallion. The royal vet college told her to use natural covering. However we don't do that so we inseminated her with fresh semen with no extender added, some mare can react to the extender. Bingo first time in foal.

Advice is try again.
 
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