gwniver
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how would you teach a young horse not to bronk and bolt ??
bronking - help
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be positive
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I would want to know why it has learnt in the first place, sorry that does not really help but I have rarely known a youngster that has been correctly started do either so would look to the reason in order to find the cure.
gwniver
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he has always done it but now he has started bolting as well
starryeyed
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Going to say the obvious (sorry!) - have you had the vet out to check for any back/teeth issues etc in order to rule out a pain response?
GlamourDol
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I would be questioning whether this was a pain response.
HAve you had everything checked?
Does he do it on the lunge as well as with a rider?
HAve you had everything checked?
Does he do it on the lunge as well as with a rider?
be positive
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More info required really, is he bucking then running off as a reaction in panic, if he has always been inclined to buck have you done all the usual checks, most will grow out of high spirits or nervousness but not if there is an underlying problem.
Giving advice on a forum for these issues is difficult as there are so many factors to consider, I would recommend getting someone in to help, a second pair of eyes may notice something you have missed but it is likely that it is a pain reaction especially if it is getting worse or he is adding extra to his behaviour.
Giving advice on a forum for these issues is difficult as there are so many factors to consider, I would recommend getting someone in to help, a second pair of eyes may notice something you have missed but it is likely that it is a pain reaction especially if it is getting worse or he is adding extra to his behaviour.
gwniver
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sorry I should have wirten a longer post =) he has had everything checked very recently and was going well but about 2 weeks ago I got sick and couldn't ride him now he is just a bundle of energy , he really needs to be in full work all the time . most of my horse friends agree that a few small buck once in awhile is fine for a youngster and he will soon grow out of it . about a month ago before I brought him into full work he did a huge bucking bronco bolt and I nearly came of after he had done that he was fine . I just don't want to do it again and he does . I cant lunge him
starryeyed
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How old is he?
gwniver
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5 years old
MagicMelon
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Why can't you lunge him? Would be a good way for him to release energy especially if you can't ride every day, or to help knacker him out a bit before you get on. You say he's a bundle of energy - is he turned out much? If he's cooped up in a stable and not being exercised regularly then any young horse will go a bit loopy!
Kallibear
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The short and simple answer is you can't physically stop a horse bucking and broncing.
You need to find out WHY he's doing it and change things so he doesn't want to or feel the need to.
So the first question you need to ask yourself is 'Why is he bucking and bolting?'
You need to find out WHY he's doing it and change things so he doesn't want to or feel the need to.
So the first question you need to ask yourself is 'Why is he bucking and bolting?'
lastchancer
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Break it in before you ride it?
lunginggirl
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My boy went through a stage of doing this when he was a simular age. He started in the winter when it was hard to ride due to ice. The best thing to do would be lunge him. I used to only lunge for a few days then lunge for a small amount of time before I got on. Seemed to help him as if he did have too much energy he would work it off before I got on. It really helped last year when I was bringing him back into work aswell.
He now seems to have grown out of it. I make sure he is worked everyday and if he does have a day off he is lunged the next. He is better in the summer because he has more turn out. x
He now seems to have grown out of it. I make sure he is worked everyday and if he does have a day off he is lunged the next. He is better in the summer because he has more turn out. x
Costypop
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I would turn him out in company, so is kept active ideally with other younger horses.
Cut down on all feed, just feed hay and grass if you can.
Get everything checked.
If you can't lunge, could you loose school him before you ride?
If still having issues id be thinking about sending away
But I'd be defo having lessons on him too
Don't ride him when your on your own till you know he's got out of it, had a livery who had a horse that was prone to bucking, came off when no one was around the yard and found with a broken leg 4hrs later, she had left her phone in the tack room and was flat out in the school.
Good luck
Cut down on all feed, just feed hay and grass if you can.
Get everything checked.
If you can't lunge, could you loose school him before you ride?
If still having issues id be thinking about sending away
But I'd be defo having lessons on him too
Don't ride him when your on your own till you know he's got out of it, had a livery who had a horse that was prone to bucking, came off when no one was around the yard and found with a broken leg 4hrs later, she had left her phone in the tack room and was flat out in the school.
Good luck
jrp204
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Thats helpful. Our boy, professionally broken went through a stage of bronking, yes his tack did fit and no pain issues it was purely high spirits. If possible she would try to ride him on and not give him the chance to start but not always and they could be impressive bronks. He did grow out of it.
Hackie
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Actually, if you turn a horse on a very small circle (head to knee), keeping them very forward, if you feel they are about to go up, its a very effective method to physically prevent them from bucking. It is very difficult for them to buck (or rear) if they are bent. And by keeping them forward (and giving a little kick to say 'don't even think about it, mate') you can ride them through a little.
I had a OTTB that bucked (as an evasive technique, no pain, and he wasn't really dirty), and used this method quite successfully, and I'm not a particulalrly 'brave' rider. But you have to be quick, and get them BEFORE they actually buck. Eventually, he got bored of trying and slowly gave up. He wound up a beautiful riding horse in the end.
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gwniver
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thanks for all you great replies. yesterday I dug out my long lining kit and gave that ago , he went quiet happily round and after that I got on him and had a super ride , he seemed to have gotten all his energy out after the long lining . Like everyone else said I think it is just a stage and I will try and exercise him everyday though the winter with the hope he grows out of it .
ILuvCowparsely
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well my boy bronked me off a week and a bit ago, onto concrete and broke my arm. We found out his pelvis and hip had rotated along with an inflamed spondyle due to livery carelessness. Last time also there were problems with back. He is quater horse so like a Duracell battery. In the newforest he bronked a lot due to the crab flies.
He will do it in excitement too which is the situation I am seeking opinions for
He is ridden in a pelham for hacking, I do have a buck stop too which is very effective. I have heard a cherry roller would be better than a pelham. Any thoughts peeps with bronkers?
His tack if fine
his teeth are fine done yearly by EDT.
he is 12 now and was home bred and broken in..
and has done even on occasions when pain not the issue
Just wondering if the cherry roller is better for hacking and sponsored rides
Ps: he bronks not bucks
He will do it in excitement too which is the situation I am seeking opinions for
He is ridden in a pelham for hacking, I do have a buck stop too which is very effective. I have heard a cherry roller would be better than a pelham. Any thoughts peeps with bronkers?
His tack if fine
his teeth are fine done yearly by EDT.
he is 12 now and was home bred and broken in..
and has done even on occasions when pain not the issue
Just wondering if the cherry roller is better for hacking and sponsored rides
Ps: he bronks not bucks
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MadBlackLab
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I agree with this. rule out pain related issues. If no pain issues then look at re-schooling him either yourself or an experience instructor
MadBlackLab
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could he be cold backed?
Orangehorse
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Do you tell him off BEFORE he bucks? Not easy I know, but sometimes you can feel them take in a deep breath, that is the time to shriek in their ear "No, you b......./bad boy, etc. etc." Unfortunately there are times when all you can do is sit there, clinging on if they take you by surprise, so they don't know they are doing anything wrong.
Lots of useful advice above. With a young horse it is often just high spirits and they do grow out of it. The time to worry is when they don't just have a couple of high spirited bucks, but keep going until you fall off - that is something else and needs looking into for a cause.
Lots of useful advice above. With a young horse it is often just high spirits and they do grow out of it. The time to worry is when they don't just have a couple of high spirited bucks, but keep going until you fall off - that is something else and needs looking into for a cause.