ginatina
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Has anyone here ever successfully gained permission to build a house at an equestrian business? If so, I'd be grateful to hear any learnings you may have to share! Thank you 
Building a house at your equestrian business..?
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ycbm
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The people who succeeded were 2 before the current occupier, but the Equestrian Centre at Ollerton near Knutsford succeeded after a very long battle and years of living in a caravan on site.. I don't know if that will help in any way, but it's the only one I know of.
Good luck.
Good luck.
dixie
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I know of two.
the first had a few stallions, bred a few foals and called themselves a stud and gained permission. They gelded the stallions once the house got built !
The other was a livery and competition yard. They initially were allowed to live in a mobile home and after a few years they got planning for a super house.
the first had a few stallions, bred a few foals and called themselves a stud and gained permission. They gelded the stallions once the house got built !
The other was a livery and competition yard. They initially were allowed to live in a mobile home and after a few years they got planning for a super house.
EventingMum
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Like others, we had permission for a mobile home before building our house. The planners need to be convinced the business is viable and there is a need for someone on-site to tend to animals at all times.
Britestar
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Place near me has an indoor and outdoor, and stables.
Lived in mobile home for several years, running as a show centre and teaching yard.
Got permission for house, built it, then closed for shows and training.
They just live there themselves with their horses now.
Another place was an ex cross country course. New owners bought the estate, rallied the local riding clubs, and pony clubs to sign a petition to say how much we used the facility, and needed it locally. On the back of that, got permission to build a lovely house, 2 outdoor arenas and super stables.
Never let us in the place again once it was all built.
Lived in mobile home for several years, running as a show centre and teaching yard.
Got permission for house, built it, then closed for shows and training.
They just live there themselves with their horses now.
Another place was an ex cross country course. New owners bought the estate, rallied the local riding clubs, and pony clubs to sign a petition to say how much we used the facility, and needed it locally. On the back of that, got permission to build a lovely house, 2 outdoor arenas and super stables.
Never let us in the place again once it was all built.
jkitten
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windand rain
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All the ones I know have spent years in a mobile home before being granted planning permission. Mind you my dream house went to tender yesterday a 2 bed bungalow in 11 acres in need of modernisation £329,000 offers
teapot
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You have to have a justified reason(s) and support to get anywhere, ie letter from your vet, BHS (if you're an approved centre/yard).
It can take years and that's after the 'have you tried the mobile home approach' you'll no doubt get in response. Make sure you know your land like the back of your hand too - footpaths, ancient monuments, bats/newts etc
It can take years and that's after the 'have you tried the mobile home approach' you'll no doubt get in response. Make sure you know your land like the back of your hand too - footpaths, ancient monuments, bats/newts etc
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PurBee
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Ive looked into these issues of planning permission on agri land - and if you satisfy the conditions, its possible. Be aware ‘areas of natural/beauty/interest’ or national park-type regions will be a lot trickier even if you satisfy conditions put upon general agri land. It would be far easier to obtain permission outside these areas.
The number 1 person to look for is a specialist agri planning architect in the area the land is located, who already regularly submit proposals to that local council so better know the idiosyncrasies of THAT council and how to fulfil their criteria for building on agri land. That will save you from doing multiple proposals, being rejected/appealing etc.
The mobile home legalities are a bit of a legal loophole enabling you to live there to start your agri business and then being able to prove the business you run, and therefore obtain permission more easily. If going the mobile home route in the uk, factor in the cost of buying one which is described as ‘winter pack’ or ‘all seasons’ (better insulated with double glazing and central heating,- around 15k-20k to buy a nice 2nd hand one) , rather than the freezing cold ‘summer/vacation’ mobile homes that literally freeze inside during winter, and the inside walls run with water, creating damp and mould - you’ll thank me later ?
The number 1 person to look for is a specialist agri planning architect in the area the land is located, who already regularly submit proposals to that local council so better know the idiosyncrasies of THAT council and how to fulfil their criteria for building on agri land. That will save you from doing multiple proposals, being rejected/appealing etc.
The mobile home legalities are a bit of a legal loophole enabling you to live there to start your agri business and then being able to prove the business you run, and therefore obtain permission more easily. If going the mobile home route in the uk, factor in the cost of buying one which is described as ‘winter pack’ or ‘all seasons’ (better insulated with double glazing and central heating,- around 15k-20k to buy a nice 2nd hand one) , rather than the freezing cold ‘summer/vacation’ mobile homes that literally freeze inside during winter, and the inside walls run with water, creating damp and mould - you’ll thank me later ?
PeterNatt
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You realy need advice from a local planning consultant who will be abe to give you advice on what option to take in your specific area.
Be aware that if you build via the business use option that you will have to pay business rates on the whole property and in addition in the event of selling it you will not be able to get stamp duty tax relief as per you would with a domestic house but you will have to pay Capital Gains Tax on any increase in value. In addition as it is an equestrian property you will not be able to get any death duty tax relief on it.
Be aware that if you build via the business use option that you will have to pay business rates on the whole property and in addition in the event of selling it you will not be able to get stamp duty tax relief as per you would with a domestic house but you will have to pay Capital Gains Tax on any increase in value. In addition as it is an equestrian property you will not be able to get any death duty tax relief on it.
milliepops
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definitely recommend getting a specialist planning consultant on board. We are going through this process currently (incl mobile home step) and if we'd been doing it ourselves i would have lost the will long ago and we're not there yet. Covid hasn't helped but the hurdles are many and frustrating and our council area are outrageously slow. I've done other planning applications myself quite confidently but this has been a very different experience so it's been a massive relief to let someone else deal with the difficult bits. it's not cheap but will be well worth it if we are successful. ours is not a local person but she is managing multiple applications in our area and has a lot of experience. i think we'll likely end up with a tie on the building but that's not a problem for us, hoping to get a forever home by the end.
blitznbobs
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If there is a barn or steel span on the site have a look at class q permitted development— we have successfully built using this and although approval is needed its a lot quicker and does not require full planning permission