Burghley young event horse

Portia QT

Well-Known Member
Joined
15 August 2005
Messages
88
Visit site
has anyone had a go at this, would you recommend having a go or is it top riders that usually do well etc

Who normally judges and do you get the same judges at the qualifiers as you do at the final?



(ALSO IN NEW LOUNGE 2)
 
Absolutely nothing to stop you having a go at one of the Qualifiers. It is normally pretty experienced people judging. You may find someone who judged a Qualifier judging at the Championships. There are 3-4 different judges at each Qualifer & the Finals. One for each section.

I would say the top riders or rather well known Producers do well at the Finals but quite a big range of people go to the Qualifiers.

2 of our horses competed at BYEH & both qualified for the finals although neither of them got into the top 10 for the final ride off. One of ours got 3/15 for conformation at the Finals which is really bad........ we dont care though he is now one of the top event horses in the country!!!
 
Lol Joss!! Very telling isn't it
wink.gif


Kara, Baydale on here has done very well in these qualifiers, so she maybe able to offer some pearls of wisdom
grin.gif
I think they are a good experience for young horses, and will be aiming my 5yr old for a couple of the qualifiers...
smile.gif
 
Joss - which horse do you have??? did you bred him or buy him as a youngster?

Sorry - i'm don't usually come on this forum so don't know you all!
 
Its usually the big bay ones that do well!

And our big bay gelding that did the best winning qualifiers each year and going to the finals where he never got into the top ten! He's been best british 4 and 5 year old at the young horse champs and won it last year too! His 7yo half sister is 15.2hh and grey and they hated her even though talent wise etc in her 5yo year she got 8 points and won all her PN's!!

It is £20 for a dressage test and jumping round somewhere with good atmosphere so great experience for young horses. It is really a show class and the horses dont necessarily go on to event or do very well! Will copy below an article that I put together about it for you to read. Basically though to do well you have to choose your judges and venues - knowing what they like - some are hunter judges anyway, some are event riders who "always" ride small TB's etc etc . The horses need to be very well produced do a very quiet sweet test, jump round not necessarily clear but foward showing excellent technique and then trot up and stand up well for a show judge.

You have to develop a hard skin as the marks dont often reflect whats in front but sometimes who is on them or what the judge likes. Great experience though especially the big classes at Bramham/Gatcombe etc with Marchington/Milton Keynes being much smaller types.

Our big bay got 9/15 for conf at his first qualifier then a week later at Bramham got 15/15 then back to 10 at the finals! The little grey mare got 6/15 at her first one then 4 days later got 14/15 its quite funny really! The bay has won 2 qualifiers as a 4yo having had poles down whereas some judges wont dare to place ones who touch a pole.



Burghley Loddon Young Event Horse Classes – The Lowdown!

The Burghley Young Event Horse Finals are a culmination of some 20 qualifiers run throughout the country between May and August. It is a class that, if you haven’t spent all summer chasing the qualifiers, can be hard to follow and therefore a brief explanation…..

There are no tack changes between phases therefore the horse must go in a snaffle bridle but can wear a martingale/boots for the dressage.

Dressage – performed in a long arena the test is the same for 4 and 5 year olds apart from lengthened trot strides in the latter. Marked out of 35 the judge is not looking at the level of training or individual movements as in a normal test. The marks are for paces, way of going, attitude and overall impression remembering that a good rider can make an “unscopey” horse look much better than perhaps a talented horse with a novice rider. .

Marking guidelines given to the judges 1-10 poor, 21-30 good, 31-35 excellent.

Jumping – runs next to the dressage, in the same arena. The 4 year olds jump a 95cm and the 5 year olds 1.00m at the qualifiers, this increases by 5cm for the finals where there are also some cross country jumps.

This is marked out of 40 and the judges are looking for a bold athletic horse with a good technique. A horse with these qualities will not be penalised for having a fence down (or in the case of four year olds having one refusal) as long as they learn from there mistakes. Four year olds are not marked down for jumping from a trot.

Marking guidelines given to the judges 1-15 poor; 16-25 adequate; 26-35 good; 36-40 excellent

Finally the horses are untacked and trotted up for the conformation judge. Here the judge is looking for a horse with a conformation that should stand up to the demands of the sport in terms of soundness, speed and stamina. Lack of quality or defects that may prevent the horse being fast enough are marked down even though they may make a nice dressage or jumping horse. Lack of size is not to be held against a horse and judges are reminded that there can be no prejudice towards mares.

When all the horses have completed the first stage of the competition those with the top ten scores are invited back into the ring for the final judging of “Suitability and Potential”. If there are two horses on the same mark the one with the higher jumping mark is given precedence. If there is still a tie both are brought back in.

In this section a separate judge watches each horse walk trot and canter around the arena as in a show class. Each horse will then gallop individually. The judge is looking for star quality and the potential to make the ultimate world class three day event horse. The judge brings the horses into line in the order that they see their potential. This section has no bearing on the previous sections. 10 marks are awarded to the horse brought in first, 9 to the second, 8 to the third and so on.

These scores are then added to those of the previous sections to find the overall winner.

The number of qualifiers for the final depends on the number of starters at the competition. Up to 15 starters – 1 qualifier, 16-30 = 2 qualifiers, over 31 = 3 qualifiers.
 
Top