Burnt nose?

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A couple of days ago, Porridge developed a really horrid scabby nose, on the pink skin. It looks like terrible sunburn, however she is in between 8am and 4pm every day (in an american barn with no direct windows or doors to the outside), and the sun hadn't been out (let alone fierce) for ages.

Somebody mentioned it could be due to the amount of time her nose spends in wet grass in a warm atmosphere (and wet hay as she has it soaked). Could this be right? It has gone from being quite normal to looking like it has been exposed to strong sun for ages, with no intervention, overnight. I have been putting dermoline on it twice daily and turning her out with childrens' sun block plastered on it, but really doesn't seem feasible that it is sunburnt as she has not had this problem before during properly sunny weather (whenever that was - seems ages ago!). The other thing I wondered about was photosensitivity, but our fields have no ragwort and neither does the hay; I know this because the hay is grown by the YO and I can see for myself that it is regwort free. The fields were weedkilled back in late May and the horses kept off them for the recommended length of time, so it isn't that.

Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what it might be, and what I can try on it to encourage it to heal? It looks awful, although doesn't appear to bother her.
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Could be buttercups - but why suddenly now I wonder?

Will go and buy some udder salve tomorrow, will give me a good excuse to buy all the other equine things I need from the agricultural store - thank you
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Could be buttercups - but why suddenly now I wonder?

Will go and buy some udder salve tomorrow, will give me a good excuse to buy all the other equine things I need from the agricultural store - thank you
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Linked to photosensitivity, will look a lot like bad sunburn
 
If udder cream is Sudocrem (sp?) I think I read that it shouldn't be used in sunny conditions, it can cause skin to burn. May be wrong but think I noted it because my horse has one pink foot and I use Sudocrem on it. Brill stuff but not if the sun is going to shine on it.

Apologies if I'm wrong but if memory is serving me well tonight (it seldom does these days) worth a cautionary warning.

Didn't H&H run a feature this/last week on photosensitivity etc?
 
Hi My yearling filly is suffering something similar it started when the buttercups were in flower, we have since had the field topped no buttercups but she still getting a sore nose!! so I am watching this with interest as nobody could help me....I have been using Sudocrem, its not scabby anymore but is still pink but it used to be black?
 
Our pink nosed horse and my arab mare's white foot have both broken out in sores this week. We have no buttercups, the nose I could put down to sunburn (though it has sort of cracked across) but the foot?
I am treating with sudocrem but will be careful now after reading the above.
 
Thats weird Dizzykizzy as I am treating my arabs hind white feet as well as they are sore he lived out all winter no mud fever but has something similar now, as well as the yearling I am going through Sudocrem at a rate of knots but have only been putting it on at night and sunblock on during the day?
 
I also have a little filly with very sore and scabby white legs, vet says mud fever, we have had rain but not enough to make the field muddy and considering during the winter she was in about 4" of mud and her legs were fine (was brought in every other night to dry off). i am totally confused. Am trying to treat the problem but it is so painful even with her having bute that she is not allowing me to do things properly.

On a previous horse I had I had to sow gamgee or toweling around the nose band of his halter to make a flap coming over his nose to stop it from scabbing and was before the sun even came out.
 
Just to alert owners: putting oily creams on any burn is seriously not recommended. Oil based stuff not only doesn't soothe damaged skin, but it can "fry" the skin even more in sunshine. Good advice on any reputable health site for humans. Bog standard calamine lotion or any soothing after-sun preparation will help while the horse is stabled. Turned out in sunshine (even late afternoon) the horse needs the same sort of sun block you would put on yourself or your child. Factor 50 or total sun blocks are good but do remember that an hour or 2 grazing will usually pretty much rub it all off. The only safe way to protect a photosensitive horse is to stable it all day or buy a good quality face/muzzle mask.

If this is a new symptom MC, it might be worth getting a liver function test done. Ragwort poisoning is cumulative. A horse can have about 70% of it's liver irreparably damaged from ragwort and you wouldn't know it until a final "last straw" tips it over the edge. A blood test won't prove or disprove ragwort poisoning but will give you a clear indication if your ned has liver problems x
 
i was going to say get bloods done for liver to see if that is fuctioning probally. It could be buttercups? If you are going to pu anything on it i would put aloe vera juelly on it very soothing!x
 
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If udder cream is Sudocrem (sp?) I think I read that it shouldn't be used in sunny conditions, it can cause skin to burn. May be wrong but think I noted it because my horse has one pink foot and I use Sudocrem on it. Brill stuff but not if the sun is going to shine on it.

Apologies if I'm wrong but if memory is serving me well tonight (it seldom does these days) worth a cautionary warning.

Didn't H&H run a feature this/last week on photosensitivity etc?

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Sudocrem isn't Udder Salve....

personally i wouldn't use Sudocrem on any of my ponies.
 
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If udder cream is Sudocrem (sp?) I think I read that it shouldn't be used in sunny conditions, it can cause skin to burn. May be wrong but think I noted it because my horse has one pink foot and I use Sudocrem on it. Brill stuff but not if the sun is going to shine on it.

Apologies if I'm wrong but if memory is serving me well tonight (it seldom does these days) worth a cautionary warning.

Didn't H&H run a feature this/last week on photosensitivity etc?

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Sudocrem isn't Udder Salve....

personally i wouldn't use Sudocrem on any of my ponies.

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JM07 what's Udder Salve please. Will Google it but interesting to know in the context of this Post?

Also believe Sudocrem is used quite extensively on horses, why isn't it suitable please?

Thanks.
 
Udder Salve is used on cows udders...it contains lanoline and iodene, its a good all-weather conditioner...ideal for mud fever/cracked heels etc

i dont like Sudocreme as it is very oily, and therefore keeps dirt and grease behind it and also gets very hot under the sun...therefore attracting rather then deflecting the sun..
 
Interesting, thanks JM07. Agree with you, Sudocrem is oily and I wouldn't use it in sunny conditions. However, I have found it a good barrier cream if used on clean dry skin as it's long lasting, ie overnight turnout. Also use it on his pink heel area before working in rubber school, rightly or wrongly think it may help to protect skin from rubber potentially damaging the sensitive skin in this area.

Udder Salve can presumably be used as a barrier for similar usage? Has it another name to look out for, haven't had time to Google yet.
 
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