Buying/selling Parelli'd horses.

[Enfys]

Out of curiosity

Would you be put off going to view a horse if it stated in the advert that it had been Parelli trained?

On the other hand, if you are selling a horse that has been Parelli trained are you fussy about who views? Do you think it puts people off/encourages them?

As I said in another thread I do have a Parelli'd horse, I did not know her history before I bought her, I don't think it would have stopped me going to see her though as I'd specifically been looking for a mare of her colour and lines for ages.

 

[Cop-Pop]

No it wouldn't stop me - they'd be bomb proof if a giant ball appeared

I occasionally ride a horse who's owner does Parelli on/with. She's a lovely mare, very well handled and is a really nice ride. I don't know if Parelli is anything to do with this or not as her owner bred her and broke her in so she's never known anything different.

 

[saddlesore]

hmm , I think that's a hard question to answer! If the horse had been 'parelli'd' by someone skilled and knowledgeable then it certainly wouldn't put me off. However, *some* horses seem to be 'parelli'd' as a result of issues that mean they cannot be ridden/handled safely and it could take quite a bit of work to 'undo' what had been done!
Good question!

 

[zefragile]

Nah it wouldn't put me off if it did what I wanted it to do

I know quite a few AWESOME horses and ponies that have been parelli'd that I would absolutely love to own (and they do go galloping and jumping, not that some people on here would be believe that people that do Parelli actually ride their horses, let alone gallop and jump....

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[PapaFrita]

Well, initially it would put me off because I can't think of a single thing that Parelli can do for a horse that they can't get from an owner with a bit of common sense... I don't think I would turn down a horse that was suitable in every other way purely because it had a bit of Parelli experience. I suppose it would depend on how much it had been Parellied though

 

[lilym]

wouldn't touch one with a bargepole!!!!!!
a few years back i rang about a possible horse for a freind, the seller didn't want it doing dressage - we are talking RC prelim/novice level here- as she said it was cruel, and didn't want it jumping either, when I asked her what sort of activity it would be able to do (sarcasticly by this time after getting the whole friggin life story) she said Parelli, I told her to stick the horse and I would get a proper one sensibly brought on and able to do a job - it's this cult like god status that goes with parelli thet I really abore, I would like to see it banned, especiallly after watching a beautiful, sensitive horse almost tear it's leg off trying to get away from it's numpty owner clunking it's chin with a heavy duty clip and waving a whip right in it's face, (swollen horse for those that remember)

 

[NeilM]

If the horse looked right, I would certainly risk a look, but a lot would depend on the owner, as well as the horse.

 

[MrsMozart]

Some people are just barking. Having seen P demos (and I care not one hoot either way), they jump and do dressage movements.

No it would not put me off. If I like the horse then I like the horse - it's view on orange sticks is unlikely to be an issue for us

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[Chumsmum]

My new pony had been Parelli trained for about a year before I bought him and he is 'normal'

When I went to view him they (girl about 12yo) rode him in a bridle (and so did I) and they also rode and jumped him in a halter - tbh this just seemed to reinforce how honest he was to me, he is a lovely natured pony.

Before I bought him home they showed me a few things they had done with him, more so that I was aware of what he could do rather than trying to force anything on me - it was interesting and one day I may look at it further but I'm happy with the way I do things - I'm handling and riding him in more 'traditional' way and he certainly doesn't seemed bothered by that at all.

However, he does try to climb on my mounting block

So no, it wouldn't put me off at all

 

[Onyxia]

Up untill a few years ago I wouldnt have touched one with a bargepole.
Not been drafted to the dark side

but did meet a lady about to sit her stage 4 who was also a NH instructor.
She was a bloody good horsewoman who thought the "BHS way" was best for horses that diddnt allready have issues,but that had helped many a horse written off by owners as dangerous with some of the NH stuff.
Now I supose she should just be a "common sense horseman"

but she had a real passion for the NH side and drilled that we have to understand them and communicate in a way thats easy for them not the other way round.
She hated Parelli with equal passion

If the horse matched what I was looking for and was not a million miles away I would go and look,assuming the owner sounded sane on the phone

 

[Tinypony]

Normally when we see a horse in an advert, think we like the look of it, and go to view, we don't have a label to attach to how it's been trained. We just go along and look at the horse in front of us, try it out, and treat it on it's own individual merit. So I'd do the same if the owner happened to mention Parelli in the advert. There are some very good horses out there whose owners have done some Parelli, maybe a lot, maybe a little, it seems daft to dismiss a horse just because of that.
Lilym in the nicest possible way I think you're mad.

You'd avoid some really nice horses because you had an encounter with one nutty horse owner.

 

[MagicMelon]

Why would it put you off? Doesn't see why. Only thing I might worry about is if more time was spent on the ground doing parelli stuff than actually in the saddle, hence it might be a bit green.

 

[The_snoopster]

I sold a youngster to a parelli fanatic and although i do like this man and does do some amazing stuff. I sold him a very quiet baby who was great to travel and had seen the traffic without to much bother he never bit or kicked he also had had 7 weeks proffessional backing and schooling and was hacking out nicely in company. This man does now keep telling everyone that he is quiet because of parelli, i feel like saying no he was that quiet before you bought him and before you bought him he could walk a straight line in his snaffle bridle. Whereas now he is weaving all over the place in a halter taking chunks of grass at will , now this man is a loverly person and treats this horse wonderfully and its his choice to do things his own way but why do i always feel guilt that i have a bit in my horses mouth and shoes on her feet and never allow her to eat when she has her bridle on becaus e i dont want her to think she can haul me over the saddle when she see,s some green grass.

 

[soulfull]

Probably not and yes I may miss out on a good horse but most of it is nonsense. I walked away from a 'natural horsemanship' trained horse last weekend because it was quite obvious it had been taken too far and the horse was taking the PI**

A lot of it seems to be owners who are way too soft and not intelligent/experienced enough to see when it goes too far and the horse is getting its own way

 

[SO1]

Probably not - not because I disagree with parelli but because I think it is something that people with problem horses turn to often as a last resort when conventional methods have not worked.

I don't want a tricky horse and if parelli is the only method that works with the horse then it is not for me because I don't have any parelli skills.

 

[noblesteed]

I bought a horse who had been 'parelli' trained and it took me 6 months to get him to stop barging, to allow me to tack him up, stand to be mounted and shod and to not turn and square up to me while i tried to lunge him. Be very careful, i'm convinced my boy had been allowed to dominate his rider.
After his 'retraining' with more traditional methods he is a treasure to work with although he still has the odd moment where he chooses to challenge my authority.

 

[Tinypony]

Hell, if only some of you could see a truly "Parelli'd" horse. You'd probably start to go on about them being shut down and robotic. Do you think Mr P's horses barge him, move about as he tries to get on, or are in any way badly behaved? They are completely in his control and wouldn't dare to push in on him in any way. He can move them backwards away from him with a look. As their training progresses he can send them away from him in any direction as fast as he likes. They have any "bad" behaviour trained out of them quickly and efficiently. On a straightforward lunging (circling) session he would teach his horses to stop and turn to face him - by "pushing" their hindquarters away with a look. But, if he wanted them to stop straight on the circle and not turn in, they would do that as well. Oh, and reverse back still on the circle if required. He can "lunge" his horses at liberty in an open field, at a distance of over 40ft, and have them turn and come back to him at a gallop at a tip of his head. That is what Parelli training is really about, love it or hate it. I think the only problem taking on a high level trained Parelli horse might be that it would be too sharp and responsive. They wouldn't need any leg to move forward, but would take off from a thought, and skid to a halt from a tiny cue. They are used to being ridden with a light contact and would react to the usual "English-style" hold on the reins, probably by shooting backwards.
However, I guess many of us would find it wierd to ride a highly trained dressage horse, maybe one of Hester's for example...

Not saying I condone all of that, but if you are going to keep running down a training system wouldn't it be worth getting to know a bit more about how it really works? Not how some twits try to do it at home after watching a demo DVD.

(Fortunately, the horses trained in Parelli to that level don't come up for sale often, and if they do they get sold very quickly and by word of mouth to people who know what they are about.)