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Right, I need your help. Forget bitting, forget tack, forget all gadgets and everything like that, the problem between Oshk and I, I am certain, is in my seat. I have one of those electric bottoms, I swear I can get even the most laid back horses into a tizz.
Now how can I ride him so that he isnt pulling, but so I am having to do next to nothing with his mouth, as in trying to slow him with my seat, without sending him some kind of go faster vibes that I am very good at. Should I ride him in lots of circles? Im sort of at a loss with this
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There are a few answers to this, in brief, have a lesson with an instructor to checkout your seat position, you maybe encouraging the horse forward without realising.

Try work on a loose rein in walk and try and walk to halt transitions purely through your body.

If your seat is good and you think it is the horse maybe try some lateral work, lots of transitions.

I had a fizzy mare and I used to make schooling varied through lots of transitions, changes of rein, serpentines, lateral work.

Hope this helps! I could be totally of course here though as I am no pro!

Good luck x
 
Join the club, I think it’s because I’m quite a ‘you will do it’ person, if you know what I mean and tend to natural ride quite strongly. I think I’m quite a strong person naturally.
It does have its advances though in that I can tend to get things going that other people may have struggled with.

If you find the answer please let me know. I tend to avoid the highly sensitive horses.
 
i used to have this problem...my trainer calls it "electric ar*e syndrome". one of the things i did was LOADS of work with no stirrups especially on the fizzy horses. it meant i had to sit really deep and still in the saddle in order to get anywhere working them. there are a couple of things you could be doing without even realising it. if you pelvis and lower back are stiff or locked then you riding a half halt with your seat is sending completely the opposite message to the horse. the best way it was described to me was to relax my lower back and do an impression of an "elvis pelvis" while walking or trotting with no stirrups. its works simply because when trotting you can't do this against the horses movement...its excruciating! so therefore when you get with the movement you are in a much deeper seat and sitting quieter as your body is absorbing the movement rather than your pelvis working like a shock absorber. in terms of using your seat rather than hand to slow him down you will come to the point where once you are able to sit deeper and quieter you will find it easier to ride him forwards into a downwards transition. lessons on the lunge are good (though don't do them with a sadist like my trainer....you want walk for a week after lol!!). even out hacking in walk you can try softening your back a bit by slouching (just slightly) you'll feel the movement more. i still have electric ar*e moments but for say 98% of the time i can now ride any type of horse without driving them mad!!
Hope that helps
 
I am the same as you rosiie, Im a strong rider and i tend to make the horses very forward without doing anything. I think having a lesson from someone who knows what they are on about to see where you are going wrong, You never know it could be something next to nothing btu that you have totally overlooked,

As for the slowing down bit, on my old mare i used to just sit really deep in canter and she came back like a lamb, Or rising canter usually slowed her down, I supose its different for every horse though isnt it. Ive seen your boy on vids etc and maybe you could get advice from an instructor.
 
Let me have him I send everything to sleep. He would love to live in Bath.
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Maybe get a lesson of a proper dressage rider? Does he do it with other people as well? Some horses are just naturally onward bound, maybe it's just him. You always look like your sat pretty quiet in your photos. Is he always like this or just when you do certain things?
 
How about not putting your bum in the saddle? If you have a neckstrap can you haul on that to give him the slow down message?
Do you bridge your reins?
 
the mary wanless demos and books are brill for these types of problems, using your seat bones and tummy muscles
 
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Let me have him I send everything to sleep. He would love to live in Bath.
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Maybe get a lesson of a proper dressage rider? Does he do it with other people as well? Some horses are just naturally onward bound, maybe it's just him. You always look like your sat pretty quiet in your photos. Is he always like this or just when you do certain things?

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Yes maybe he is just hot headed, he certainly never will be that chilled horse, I just hoped for an easier ride than this, DD, if you can tame him you can have him for a bit
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C- only bridge my reins when I am out hunting and I have to.
 
For good, inflict the Oshkmeister on you for ever? you would curse me everyday, what he has is jumping talent he makes up for in naughty behavoir!
 
Arr, poor Osk, he's a good boy really!

I'll give him 10 out of 10 for coolness!
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He wouldn't be as cool if he behaved all the time! xx
 
When PF was very electric, Other Instructor used to make me ride in a forwardish seat. He said to imagine PF as a bar of soap; if you sit up/back you squeeze the bar of soap at the back and it shoots forward, if you sit further forward, the opposite is true...
Seemed to work!!
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It takes two to fight!
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(sorry, not very helpfull, but it's too late, if i remember, i'll come back tomorrow and think up something more helpfull then) That said, it's still true
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I have not read the whole replies - but if you think it is in your seat, you need to relax hold the buckle, and just go on nice long walks. If he trots, use your seat and your voice.
 
From ooking at all the photos you post, it seems you tend to ride with an ultra arched back. In turn this leads to you bracing your shoulders against the horse.
Pulling your stirrups up a couple of holes would help you use your balance against the horse, rather than your body. If you try to bring your batty underneath you more, and ride with a more forward position it may help. Then when he does start wanting to go leave your arms and hands relaxed, and move your batty further back over the saddle.
 
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