Can a 207 ever tow a small horse trailer??

JustAnotherNeddy

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I LOVE my 207 1.6 turbo. It's my baby! It's a 2008 plate.

In the handbook it says...

Kerb weight - 1300
Payload - 382
Gross vehicle weight - 1680
Gross train weight - 2630
Unbraked trailer - 600
Braked trailer - 600

I don't understand that?!
 
Not a chance - brakes now way big enough

People don't realise it's not the pulling that cars struggle with its the stopping - doubt your car will have disc brakes all round so deffo don't do it

Just enjoy your little car xxx
 
NO! :eek: Not even an empty one.

But you can tow a little trailer like the sort you can buy at Halfords with some wood in or something :p
 
JustAnotherNeddy said:
I LOVE my 207 1.6 turbo. It's my baby! It's a 2008 plate.

In the handbook it says...

Kerb weight - 1300
Payload - 382
Gross vehicle weight - 1680
Gross train weight - 2630
Unbraked trailer - 600
Braked trailer - 600

I don't understand that?!
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Nor did I until I checked out these dimensions ... HERE
Kerb 1300
GVW 1680
Towing 1150

In your case the GTW will be the GVW added to the towing capacity or put another way - the towing capacity is the GTW 2630 minus the GVW 1680 which leaves 950 kgs for the braked towing capacity

The lightest horse trailer I know of is 655 kgs empty so the max load/horse for the 1150 capacity would be 495 kgs and for the 950 capacity it would be 295 kgs

the max plated MAM for a trailer on a B licence would be 1300 kgs but you would still be restricted by the towing cappacity as that is the lower figure
 
JustAnotherNeddy said:
So that's a no then ROG? These terms go way over my head!
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Unfortunately it is a NO :( unless you have a very light pony using the lightest trailer

Terminology = what they mean

Kerbweight = the weight of the empty vehicle

GVW (MAM) = the maximum the vehicle can weigh when fully loaded

GTW = the maximum actual weight the vehicle and trailer can be together when placed on a weighbridge

Towing capacity = the maximum actual weight the vehicle can tow as recommended by the mvehicle manufacturer

Trailer unladen weight = the weight of the trailer when empty

Trailer MAM = the maximum the trailer can weigh when fully loaded
 
No way! Braking is the first no no. I have a sporty Clio and my braked weights are 1200kg, and I have a light trailer and small pony I could and be on the limit but there's no way I would! Not to mention I'd totally push my car to the limit .
 
dumpling said:
No way! Braking is the first no no. I have a sporty Clio and my braked weights are 1200kg, and I have a light trailer and small pony I could and be on the limit but there's no way I would! Not to mention I'd totally push my car to the limit .
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If you have a towing capacity of 1200 set by the manufacturer then that vehicle should pull that weight with relative ease - if not then contact the manufactuer or dealer to find out why it does not
 
rockysmum said:
Oh dear, not this subject again.

Who cares whether the law says you can, common sense should tell anyone that it would be stupid.

Sorry :o
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Towing capacities have nothing to do with the law

As I explained, they are what the manufacturer says the vehicle should be able to tow safely weight wise or in other words what their vehicle has been designed to do according to them

If a driver feels that they cannot cope safely then that is another issue
 
ROG said:
As I explained, they are what the manufacturer says the vehicle should be able to tow safely weight wise or in other words what their vehicle has been designed to do according to them
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Yes, when is new, and I dont for a minute think most CAR manufacturers would even consider that people would tow live loads.

A horse is different to a load of wood or any other static cargo, the movement can cause problems which means the vehicle needs to be better than the minimum.
 
dumpling said:
I don't doubt it couldn't , I just wouldn't want to do it. The car's a sporty type, not really made for towing as such!
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Sorry, I wasn't aiming my comments at you.

It just worries me a lot that people are being given advice, which is technically correct, which they might be daft enough to follow.
 
rockysmum said:
It just worries me a lot that people are being given advice, which is technically correct, which they might be daft enough to follow.
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In your opinion which you are entitled to

My opinion is that if a vehicle is designed to cope with the weight and the driver is able to cope safely with that type of load then it is ok to do so

Its a little like artic units where different trailers can be used and towing a tanker trailer is very different from any other type of trailer due to the load moving - all are designed for the weight but its the driver who needs to be able to cope with the load
 
ROG said:
In your opinion which you are entitled to

My opinion is that if a vehicle is designed to cope with the weight and the driver is able to cope safely with that type of load then it is ok to do so

Its a little like artic units where different trailers can be used and towing a tanker trailer is very different from any other type of trailer due to the load moving - all are designed for the weight but its the driver who needs to be able to cope with the load
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I realise all of this, I used to run distribution for a large company.

BUT the point you are missing, and no offense, this isn't the first time I have thought it. These are not trained HGV drivers, many of them are kids who haven't been driving for long. (not directed at OP or other posters on THIS thread)

The people you are giving advice to often have never towed a trailer of any kind. After reading some of the threads they could go off and push the limits of the vehicle and the law with live cargo.

I just think this point needs making more strongly.

Yes, you probably could, but I dont advise that you do - for example
 
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