axe1312
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my horse has alot of different symptoms and im thinking he has the flu, but he has no cough. is it possible for him to have the flu with no cough???
can a horse have flu with no cough
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Sossigpoker
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For God's sake just get the vet out!
Why on earth do you have a horse if you're not prepared to provide essential veterinary care ?
Auslander
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What makes you think he has flu? None of the symptoms you describe in your other post are flu symptoms - he just sounds upset and agitated.
axe1312
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I CANT ITS NOT MY DESISION, i already said that. im 15, its my mums choice to not get the vet out, from the vets opinion. i just want to do everything i can. and if he is still bad tomorrow, mum will be getting the vet out on thursday or friday
axe1312
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a few people said he has flu symtoms, which he does, just no cough. but there are still other symptoms that arent flu like. i just want to find out whats wrong with my boy
Auslander
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What symptoms?
axe1312
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muscle aches, weakness, runny nose, warm, heavy breathing, picky appetite are his flu symptoms.
Widgeon
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OP, I don't think it particularly sounds like your horse has the flu but I can absolutely see why you're worried about him. Can you tell your mum that a £200 callout fee is way more than normal? Most vets charge quarter of that. If I was you I would keep pushing for the opinion of a second vet. Sorry you're in this situation and no one seems to be taking your concerns very seriously.
Gloi
Too little time, too much to read.
Is there nobody on the yard with a thermometer to take his temperature. They don't cost much at the chemist.
sassandbells
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These are different symptoms to what was listed on your other thread.
If your horse is displaying those symptoms along with everything on the other thread then you need to get a vet out ASAP.
I appreciate you say you’ve chosen the best vet in the area, but no good vet would say they didn’t need to see a horse showing that many symptoms.
Please show your mum the replies to these threads and contact a vet urgently even if it’s at a different practice.
SEL
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Can you get a thermometer from the local chemist. Human one is fine. Ask someone to show you how to take his temperature.
I've been on a yard with a flu outbreak and they all had temperatures. I've also had a few with odd viruses which showed up with temperatures and general "not right". If your horse has a temperature then the vet will definitely come out.
I've been on a yard with a flu outbreak and they all had temperatures. I've also had a few with odd viruses which showed up with temperatures and general "not right". If your horse has a temperature then the vet will definitely come out.
OrangeAndLemon
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You're interpreting stressed behaviour (snorting, not relaxing, circling) as muscle pain and heavy breathing.
Take his temperature or ask the YO to.
Just get the vet out. I don't think it's a £200 call out fee, I think it's likely to represent a consultation fee and an emergency call out fee for the weekend. The truth is money will just disappear when you have horses, particularly if they need the vet.
Does your mum have a background with horses?
Widgeon
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Yes....this occurred to me late last night!
PinkvSantaboots
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The op is 15 and is relying on her parents to pay for the vet
PinkvSantaboots
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This is what i thought as well
JBM
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If we were to say it was the flu (which we cannot as we are not vets) I’m not sure how this would help if the vet isn’t coming
I would suggest getting a part time job so you can call a vet yourself in future but currently there is nothing we can help with as only a vet can diagnose
I would suggest getting a part time job so you can call a vet yourself in future but currently there is nothing we can help with as only a vet can diagnose
poiuytrewq
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Axe1312, there’s a lot of things that could be causing this, not least as suggested on the other thread just the fact he could be simply really unsettled and you are a new young owner, it’s better that your worried and trying to get answers rather than ignoring your feeling and carrying on as usual.
Sometimes horses and people can have underlying virus type things that stress (a big move) can bring out. It may or may not be serious and I do understand it’s not your fault you can’t just call the vet out.
My vet says to me that she always takes it very seriously if an owner calls and just says they feel something isn’t right so yours should really be far more obliging.
Can you film a clip on your phone and send it to a few people on here to have a look? There are some really helpful super experienced members who might just say chill out or tell your mum ti call a vet now.
Sometimes horses and people can have underlying virus type things that stress (a big move) can bring out. It may or may not be serious and I do understand it’s not your fault you can’t just call the vet out.
My vet says to me that she always takes it very seriously if an owner calls and just says they feel something isn’t right so yours should really be far more obliging.
Can you film a clip on your phone and send it to a few people on here to have a look? There are some really helpful super experienced members who might just say chill out or tell your mum ti call a vet now.
axe1312
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im going to get videos later, when he comes in from the field, as that is when he is worst.
Kaylum
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Please tell your mum to get the vet out horses can go downhill very quickly and he could end up with colic or worse.
Squeak
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Just to double check, what kind of/ colour snot does he have and what makes you think he has muscle aches and weakness?
Birker2020
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Could the runny nose be a dust allergy because he is stabled?
I would also expect him to have warm heavy breathing if he is in a 200g rug, - in the Midlands it is currently 12 degrees.
Picky appetite perhaps because he is stressed at being stabled.
I would also expect him to have warm heavy breathing if he is in a 200g rug, - in the Midlands it is currently 12 degrees.
Picky appetite perhaps because he is stressed at being stabled.
Gloi
Too little time, too much to read.
On equiflunet which reports cases the only case mentioned in April was one in the Edinburgh area so it is extremely unlikely for him to have flu.
Sossigpoker
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Those parents shouldn't have a horse if they won't spend any money on basic veterinary care !
axe1312
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it was clear, its on and off, some days he has it some days not. and he is very picky about me touching him, so i assumed it hurts
axe1312
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should i change his rug?
Birker2020
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You shouldn't over rug horses. Apart from the distress it causes, over rugging can also cause colic.
Mine is in a summer sheet indoors tonight, when the low is expected to be 5c.
When it was minus 1 the other night he was in a summer sheet with a light weight quilted rug on top.
200g rug is far too warm at this time of year. All winter my unclipped but very fine coated WB (pictured) was in no more than a 100g out in the field during the day.
You know what its like yourself if you are too hot, but at least you are able to take your coat off. Your horse isn't that lucky.
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Gallop_Away
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OP I don't want to scare you but sycamore poisoning is rife this year. I'm not saying that's what your horse has but muscle tremors and heavy breathing are common symptoms.
I understand you are only young but your mother should not have got the horse if she isn't prepared to get a vet out. Please tell her he needs to be checked over by a vet.
I understand you are only young but your mother should not have got the horse if she isn't prepared to get a vet out. Please tell her he needs to be checked over by a vet.
Rowreach
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People, please read the other thread and maybe think about the additional anxiety and stress you are causing to a 15 year old.
Gallop_Away
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With all due respect, I'd rather that than a seriously ill horse or worse, which I think would cause her considerably more distress.
I would have thought, given how concerned she seems to be, that her parents would contact the vet to ease her concerns at least. A call out/consultation should not exceed what? £200? If they can't/don't want to spend that on making sure the horse is OK, then perhaps they shouldn't own one
better safe than sorry.
I would have thought, given how concerned she seems to be, that her parents would contact the vet to ease her concerns at least. A call out/consultation should not exceed what? £200? If they can't/don't want to spend that on making sure the horse is OK, then perhaps they shouldn't own one
better safe than sorry.
Rowreach
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With all due respect, she has experienced horse people on the ground who have seen the horse in the flesh, plus an experienced horse vet who has listened to the concerns of the owner/her parents, and deduced that the horse does not need veterinary intervention at this point. So all of this internet diagnostics isn't helping, and is in fact causing a young person extreme anxiety and distress.With all due respect, I'd rather that than a seriously ill horse or worse, which I think would cause her considerably more distress.
I would have thought, given how concerned she seems to be, that her parents would contact the vet to ease her concerns at least. A call out/consultation should not exceed what? £200? If they can't/don't want to spend that on making sure the horse is OK, then perhaps they shouldn't own one
Added to which we now know that the horse has had a major change in environment,, routine, feed, lack of exercise, is stabled next to a stallion, and is wearing a 200g rug day and night in April.
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