Can anyone help me?! Back issues, tying up, saddles, rearing and squatting down...

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Firstly, this pony is not mine, I just love him to bits and want to help him. Secondly, asking on here is just to help get ideas as to what might be amiss, the owner is sorting out medical attention! I used to loan this pony, but have recently got a new horse, so he has been loaned to someone else at the same yard. Long story, but if anyone at all can help, I will love you forever!!! Also, Pony is the most lovely genuine thing who has never reared, bucked at all.

-Pony has two saddles, so we got saddler out to check fit. We've been using saddle A for donkeys years, and have never had a problem. He said to reflock saddle B, and it would be good.
-Reflocked saddle B, but pony has a violent reaction to new saddle and being girthed up, rears right up twice and nearly falls over. This happens on different occasions.
-Put saddle A back on, but pony still not happy, trying to rear but not as badly.
-Back checked, nothing wrong.
-Pony seems better, help them tack up.
-Pony shreds rug in field, pulls it apart, twists it and more. I was suprised he didn't kill himself, the damage he did to it!
-Ridden the next day, all fine.
-Clipped the day after, then given a bath to get rid of dust and hair. When tacked up he squats down, and when the girl mounts him he rears. Instructor trots him up unmounted and he bucks, looking very unhappy.
-Leave pony in to see if it's the grass.
-Do the same next day, looks happy enough when trotted round in hand but when I get on (the new loanees have been scared by now!!) he runs backwards squatted down, so I slide off. Not a happy pony.
-Bring out owner, YM, YO, and owners friend (who works at a vet practice), trot up pony, maybe he's tense behind but not lame. I get on him to see how he is, put one foot in stirrup, he rears right up, I slide off, he twists round and nearly falls over (luckily we had sense to do this in the school!). Scared himself. Lunge him, bit of bucking but not major, not lame either but not entirely right. Turn out with a rug on.

No one is going to get on him until we've had a vet check him over. Getting back, feet and teeth done. We think it's unlikely to be saddle as not had a problem with it, and he's had it for donkey's years. I personally want owner to just get him check out by a proper vet, but he's not mine and she wants to do everything else first. He's still spritley and normal in himself and very cuddly in field last night too.

Any suggestions welcome, although please don't slate me, as he's not my pony and I can't make any of the important decisions, only suggest to owner and hope she agrees!
 
Sounds like the poor chap is very uncomfortable and I would want the vet NOW.

However I appreciate you arent in a position to do that. It could be anything to be honest so hopefully they have a thorough and experienced equine vet practice coming out to do a full assessment. Keep us informed, this sounds like very extreme behaviour.
 
You need the vet to check him. If it needs to be an insurnace claim (and it does sound bad), the vet has to check it first.

I would have said it sounds like a sore back. Make sure the person who checks the back is properly qualified, good reputation and recommended by your vet (they should have the vets permission anyway)
 
I'd like to be able to think that he's not in pain just being in field, as he appears very normal and happy, and if he was in pain just being in the field surely he would become withdrawn and not wander about like he does? The trickiest part in all this is doing the best for pony without upsetting people! For the mean time I'll try to make sure he's well rugged up if it's chilly, and just keep an eye and do what I am able to to help the poor chap. :) Hopefully if the owner gets the message that nobody's going to attempt to get on him until he's been sorted by a vet, they might be more willing to have one out!
 
Why hasn't the owner called a vet yet? Seems like something is very wrong for such extreme reaction and vet should be called asap.
 
id be taking an osteo route, one was telling me a while back about the nerves around the girth line etc and how so many horses that have issues with tacking up etc have a problem in this area.
 
If this is all new behaviour then it would suggest to me a health issue - i would second spaniel here. I may look towards liver or ulcers if girthy as this is where they sit and from personal experience can create this kind of explosion.

I would also want a behaivourist to assess if the vet check comes back ok, some may have a pad to check any pinch spots and the fit of the saddle.

Good luck

Asha B
 
Someone suggested that maybe he has spinal athiritis? He'll be 21 this summer, but has always been well looked after so normally doesn't seem his age. He's fed a joint supplement too. It's so sad because it was only a few months ago that we were doing loads of PC showjumping, and bless his little socks he was flying round! :')
 
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