Can I have some advice please?!?!

amage

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Last week while on the beach on my mare we were chased by a vicious looking husky. It's owner had zero control over it and it repeatedly bit my mare's hocks, jumped up at her and was snarling/growling. Thankfully my mare is an absolute saint with dogs...she did give a few mild warning kicks but didn't do any damage. Dog was so out of control that in order for it's owner to catch it again we had to let it foloow me back to yard (1/2 mile or less) and into my mare's stable so he could corner it. Owner apologised profusely and swore that dog would be kept on lead and some serious training would be done. I explained that had I been on any other horse in the yard it would have been very serious as they are fit ready to run racers, not as good with dogs and certainly wouldn't tolerate being bitten/chased/jumped at. My mare was bitten but there were no marks however she has been mildly lame since. Now I am not blaming the dog for that as she is 15 and feeling her joints abit but equally I don't think that all the furore with the dog helped and she was sound before but lameness is jointy rather than related to the bites! Anywho fast forward to this evening and myself and OH went to feed cows & calves who are just moved into field above the beach....to find the aforementioned dog chasing the cows while at the same time having one of the calves cornered with his owner aimlessly wandering around field trying to catch him. The bull had got in alongside the cornered calf so was preventing dog doing any damage but animals were very stressed all the same. Myself and OH ran in and got between dog and cows and chased him off. Poor calves were absolutely petrified...they are still young enough that dog is almost bigger than them! His owner kept calling and dog ignored him so eventually I whistled and called dog and it came straight to me....Where I discovered the poor thing had a collar so tight that the hair is rubbed off down to the skin (bear in mind it's a husky so very thick coat)....no wonder the poor thing won't be caught to go back on lead he must be in agony. No to where I need advice...dog is a liability there is no doubt about that. It is vicious when it is chasing the animals though admittedly was lovely when I caught it and seemed happy to have someone asserting control over it. However we have a special license to use the beach for exercising racehorses and we are very conscious of the fact that we are coming into Spring/Summer and this being a holiday area there will be alot more people around so were this dog to create an issue 1) there is a danger that if a horse got loose it could cause an accident (obviously this is always a risk but an animal outside of our control causing the issue needs to be stopped) and 2) it may only be a matter of time before this dog sees a child on a bike or pony and does the same thing as it has done to our other animals. We want to report it but not sure whether to go to the Guards (police) or dog warden or both. Obviously there is the issue with the collar being way to tight but dog is healthy/well fed etc so not obviously a neglect case which kind of rules out ISPCA. our reason for reporting is as much about protecting our own safety/animals as well as for public interest. I was prepared to write off the first incident but it is now proving a threat to our livelihood (both the dairy and horse training enterprises) so any thoughts? Will police think we are over reacting? Because my mare is so good with dogs and reacted so well the day of the first incident that I actually offered to ride mare if he wanted to do a training session to try and educate dog. Any suggestions? I am worried about dog's safety too as if cows had not newly gone into that paddock they would have been more comfortable in their surroundings and would most def have reacted much more severely. Apologies for the long rambling post but any suggestions greatfully received!
 
Dog warden/council and police. It is livestock worrying.

That is one lucky, lucky dog, if that had happened in any fields around here, it would be full of buckshot and on a one-way trip to the pearly gates.

Tell the lazy bugger to either get a long-line or a rig/harness/bike/pull his jogging shoes on and exercise/work his dog properly.

Dogs like that have a stupidly high prey drive and are not human/recall orientated at all when on the chase.

I would actually be carrying a broken 12 bore over my arm the next time you see him and his dog off lead near your property, just to scare the wits out of him. PC, no, useful, very.
 
Thanks for that CC that is kind of what I was hoping to read. I wanted reassurance that I wasn't over-reacting! OH has already said the unloaded shotgun will be travelling to feed those animals for the next few days....dog owner won't know that gun has been out of commision for about twenty years and doesn't work any more!
 
Huskies should never, ever be off lead except in the most securely fenced areas well away from livestock. As a breed they are notorious for poor recall in the best of situations and, as you observed, once actually running they cannot be called off (and no, all the training in the world will not change this, however kind your offer!)

I agree, dog warden/council/police and let the owner know that you are well within your rights to shoot it if it happens again. Wouldn't be the first one to die because of an owner's ignorance, sadly.
 
Huskies should never, ever be off lead except in the most securely fenced areas well away from livestock. As a breed they are notorious for poor recall in the best of situations and, as you observed, once actually running they cannot be called off (and no, all the training in the world will not change this, however kind your offer!)

Very interesting to know thank you! Was quite incredible how quickly it reacted to me but I do reckon that the fact that I was so angry and was close enough to make eye contact helped big time! Owner seems to have no concept of the fact that he is endangering his dog as well as us our animals. Myself and OH were just saying that only for the fact that the bull is so used to dogs he prob would have charged him. Bull befriended my dog Boots over the winter while he was in...Boots discovered that beef nuts were tasty and that if bull was penned alone so there was plenty of room at the feedface for Boots to help himself! OH doesn't have a farm dog so until me and Boots came on the seen the cows wouldn't have been used to dogs at all. I have to say that my emotional side is reeling at how unfair it is that my beloved dog who was cared for, loved and well trained died and this fool who has no control and done no training has his dog. I know how illogical that is but I can't help feeling it.
 
What an awful situation and yes, you must report the owner. We had a goose killed by a dog a few months ago, I reported it to the police and later spoke to the dog warden. I was told that because I had reported it to the police the dog warden could not get involved. I think, going by my own experience, that I would contact the dog warden in the first instance. The dog is worrying your livestock and the owner can be prosecuted but I had to fight and make 2 complaints against officers before it was taken seriously. I understand that the dog wardens are effective and quick to act. They will warn the owner that if there is a repeat of the behaviour then they will prosecute. It would appear that the owner is totally irresponsible and unlikely to bother taking action (keeping dog on lead) without official intervention. He has already experienced what could have been a very dangerous, even tragic, situation with his dog and still allowed it to have another attack on other animals. Your other option is to shoot the dog the next time you catch it worrying your livestock, not a nice thought but it would solve your problem and you would be well within your rights!
 
Ive also been attacked by dogs ( two ) while riding. My situation ended with me falling off and injuring my back and one of the dogs attacking me while i was on the floor.
Ive also had approx 5 occaissions where dogs have worried the horse im riding, one time i asked the owner to call his dog off and he said 'oh no, it'll do him ( the dog ) good to get kicked in the head. !!!
WTF !
Im now firmly of the opinion that if it happens to me again I 'll be phoning both the police and the local council ( here the law is that dogs have to be registered with the council ) and reporting the incident as a dangerous dog attack.
As to the op, i might be wrong but when i was growing up in the uk, i was always told that the farmer could shoot any dog worrying his animals???
Obviously, you dont want to hurt the dog, but i guess some way of making it more clear to the owner that this cannot happen.
Kx
 
Is the beach closed from a certain date to dogs?

You defo should report and carry a shotgun: I believe you are well within your rights to shoot the dog if it worries your livestock. This bloke needs to be spoken to really seriously. Does he not know about husky and the recall problems for which they're notorious?:(
 
Is the beach closed from a certain date to dogs?

You defo should report and carry a shotgun: I believe you are well within your rights to shoot the dog if it worries your livestock. This bloke needs to be spoken to really seriously. Does he not know about husky and the recall problems for which they're notorious?:(

No beaches not generally closed over here. I have reported to Dog Warden and Guards so they have a log of current incidents and are working to track down where they live (they come to beach in a car). The guy who owns the dog is only 19-20 and I did discuss with him yest the vast level of work he needs to do. Having no experience of huskies myself I didn't know to tell him about the recall issues etc however this is duly noted and will be passed on. Dog is about 18 months to two years and I think Owner has realised what trouble he is in. We have refenced the field so that now there is a powerful shock on the actual wall/ditch that the dog came over to get at the calves. We will also be doing a swap round and putting some hardy bullocks (that think chasing dogs should be an olympic sport lol) in that field and moving the babies away. It's a pity as it's a lovely cosy field for the babies and they have gone in there for the last number of years with no issues!
 
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