Capital Punishment

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Heard on news tonight about the young, drunken boys who attacked a couple last year. The girl died and her boyfriend is brain damaged. Is it me or do there seem to be more murders being committed by younger people? Just curious about your views re Capital Punishment?
 
Murder is murder, whether it is state sanctioned or not. The death penalty is not only barbaric, it is also proven not to be a deterrent. There is also far too much room for error, especially with the increasing reliance on forensic evidence.
 
I used to agree with above but now i'm thinking that there are some multiple murder crimes that are so heinous that there is no redemption and personally i'd prefer my taxes to be spent on something useful ie giving all cancer patients the treatment they need irrespective of postcode lotteries. When money is in short supply, just like your household budgets, something has to give and in my view keeping monsters alive is way down my list or priorities.
 
Not sure.

I think society would definately be better off without certain people, but then there's so much that I feel is wrong with killing people.

If a close friend or family member had been brutally murdered by a soulless beast I'd want to see him killed.

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I can see how it is perfectly justifiable to want these 'animals' dead. Personally I think capital punishment is too easy for the likes of Ian Huntley, Steve Wright, and all the others, such as those you speak about. They should have to suffer for the rest of their lives by way of no freedom and plenty of time to think.
The chances of miscarriage of justice/error mean capital punishment is a complete no go as far as I am concerned.
 
Yes it should, I said that on my post regarding this incident.
I find the justice system an utter disgrace, that people (including youngsters now) will go out and kill, rape, kidnap, etc someone and will get out of jail several years later. Yet the years they do serve in prision is filled with rewards for good behaviour, tvs, xboxes, gym time, etc. If I am totally honest my OH knows a person who has been in and out of jail alot (not for anything very serious but that isn't the point) and he will do anything to stay in there because he likes it there.

If they don't bring it back then something should be brought in to try and stop people from getting away with it. I think tegoz_marianos's idea re the testing of drugs would be a good idea.
I do think that in this day and age people will be more likley to go and commit a serious crime and is more likley able to get away with it (to some extent).
 
I can see what Mickey means about miscarriage of justice but for multiple murders the chances of DNA wrongly being present for the same person in each site is remote.
 
LOL - I'm too much of a car lover to make a good Grauniad reader!

The death penalty is more about revenge than punishment. It can also promote dangerous behaviour, on the basis that if someone is going to be killed for murder, they might as well try and shoot their way out of a situation as they have nothing to lose.
 
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and sterilise their parents just in case they try to breed more.

I think it should be left to the relatives of the victim to decide on the death pnalty or not.
If they decide yes then THEY should carry out the execution.
 
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I am a fan of doing away with animal testing and locking these people in cages and testing on them!!Afterall they do not deserve a quality of life after what they have done!!
Arghhh,forgot we live in butthole britain and that just wouldnt be ethical now would it
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What and murder rape etc is???lol,what a world we live in eh!!
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Yes, the only way it would be a deterrent would be that an executed murderer would not be able to kill again when he or she is let out of prison early due to overcrowding.
 
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Think you hit the nail on the head in the case of Sophie and Rob unfortunately.


If capital punishment is out, - and I can see both sides of the argument, then prison life should be much harder, why cant prisoners be used for hard labour?
 
Absolutely not in favour of capital punishment.
The thought of it makes me very uneasy.
Even just the remote chance of executing an innocent person just totally throws any positive things about capital punishment out of the window for me.
 
Capital punishment within the UK, will most likely never be brought back in my lifetime. If a vote were offered to the British public then I would have absolutely no hesitation in voting "Yes" to bring it back.

In my mind, once they are gone, they certainly won't be committing any further acts of violence or murder.
 
This was a horrendous act and not only should the young lads be punished but also the parents. Capital punishment would not work but Life in prison should mean life in prison and if sent down, any prisonor should not have the privelages of a hotel but given basic lifestyles. I am not saying that they should loose all their 'human Rights' but keep it as close to the edge as it can and remove things like TV and DVD's so that they are given time to think about their crimes rather than enjoy them.
 
I really do not believe in the death penalty. First off, I fail to see how 'two wrongs' make a right. Secondly, it is not a deterrent. Thirdly, the possibility of judgement not being correct is too high. In addition, those who object to their tax money being spent on them being kept prisoner - many inmates on 'death row' are never killed, they spend so long going through appeals, stays etc that they die of natural causes. I believe that such a waiting period is cruel and unusual punishment. Thus no money is saved, in fact, the reverse is true, as you would be paying for the mandatory reviews and appeals necessary to ensure the absolutely everything that can be done to ensure you have the correct person has been done.

I also feel it is utterly wrong to ask a person to kill another, whether you choose the '3 people' method or not - the psychological effect it could have on that person is obscene.
 
Can see every point of view and I'm not sure what the answer is but obviously prison isn't the right answer because all the prisons are full and some offenders (even murderers) re-offend so they must think prison is a soft option? Life should mean life no matter what age you are when convicted and they should be made to pay for their keep in prison somehow. They receive 3 meals a day, TVs, games room, get regular exercise, no worry about paying bills and clean bedding. Some people who have not offended struggle to pay their bills and put food on the table so where is the justice in that?. If the stakes were higher, in other words the death penalty, would these lowlife yobs think twice before kicking someone to death or, stabbing them to death???
 
Sorry but i beleive in "Eye for an Eye"
If someone commits a crime that might lead to the death penalty its their own fault,we are all responsible for our own action!!
 
i am not sure about the death penalty, even though i think there are some 'monsters' out there that dont deserve the life they have been given
i think they should be made to do things like testing drugs on them as mentioned, also getting them to do hard slog day in day out only in crap weather, sorting out areas in need of renovation and improvement if you know what i mean,clearing wasteland and making it pretty for example for the nice members of society to enjoy in the good months of the year, get them clearing the streets of rubbish, all things like that with good old fashioned balls and chains!
 
I think that as long as it is proven beyond any doubt that a specific person carried out a horrific crime like this then yes, they should be killed. They have ruined the lives of many others (family of the victims etc.) - why should they be allowed to live? And why should we all have to pay to keep them in their lovely cosy prison cells with access to sky TV and other "luxuries"?!
 
The people convicted of the Birmingham pub bombings were 'convicted beyond any reasonable doubt', only for their conviction to be prooved to have been wrong, if we had had the death penalty at that time they would have been killed by the state. I do not believe that the return of the death penalty is an option for our society. If you have the death penalty for any crime which does not lead to the death of the victim, then you are more likely to have an increase in the number of murders following rape etc as the penalty is no greater and there is less chance of your victim identifying you if theyare dead!
 
Not sure - Hear too many horror stories about wrongly sentenced people in America, but when I hear of some of the truly horrific scum (Jamie Bulger's killers spring to mind) of this earth I do sometimes wish we had it.

A practical compromise would be as others have suggested to make prision life a lot tougher. If prisions were regarded as workhouses the crimals could give something back and the PC brigade would be happy.
 
I said, "No". My reason for this is history has ghanged the wrong man too many times. however, I believe in the remval of humans rights from convicted prisoners with the right the volunteer termination of their lives at any point. My statement is full of hole and I am intelligent enough to see them, but it is a complicated matter to which you seek a simple solution.
 
If someone you loved for instance your, husband, wife, parent or child and the person charged admitted they had murdered them, could you kill them by electric chair, hanging or in the same way they had killed your loved one if you believe in the death penalty?
 
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