Carlos Parro receives warning for horse mistreatment

[FieldOrnaments]

Brazilian dressage rider warned for horse mistreatment at Olympics

Carlos Parro has been issued a warning by the FEI for potentially causing “unnecessary discomfort” to his horse Safira

www.independent.co.uk

 

[SantaVera]

Yet more horse abuse. Glad the rider has received a warning

 

[ester]

still wild that it was the breeder/owner that posted the photos and thought they were the best ones to choose!

 

[Burnttoast]

still wild that it was the breeder/owner that posted the photos and thought they were the best ones to choose!

And was then strikingly aggressive towards people who reposted them with (perfectly warranted) criticism

 

[ester]

It's just a normal double bridle!
We're so proud!

 

[Tiddlypom]

So PETA didn’t take the pics, they got hold of pics which had been taken by the horse’s connections who then posted the pics publicly?

This is getter madder.

 

[teapot]

So PETA didn’t take the pics, they got hold of pics which had been taken by the horse’s connections who then posted the pics publicly?

This is getter madder.

Owner posted them and hastily deleted (they're screenshotted in the CJD thread actually if you scroll back a bit)

 

[Burnttoast]

Of course the reason the owners thought these were great photos to show might be because there were never any better ones, which does lead to wondering why (when it comes to the hackneyed old 'moment in time' argument) an elite rider at a world class competition would have so little influence over his horse's neck that he'd be unable to prevent the horse adopting this undesirable posture.

 

[ester]

So PETA didn’t take the pics, they got hold of pics which had been taken by the horse’s connections who then posted the pics publicly?

This is getter madder.

yup they were very proud of them, and everyone was bullying/trolling for mentioning otherwise, it was staggering that they couldn;t' fathom that what stuff looked like really mattered right now. (UK owner breeder so did know what was going on)

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

God it's all just quite depressing really. A warning. Woop-de-doo.

 

[FieldOrnaments]

They also said in a comment on the Discussions about FEI dressage page "There is no abuse."

Poor horses don't stand a chance do they

 

[FieldOrnaments]

Paris 2024: Italian rider expelled after horse found bleeding

Italian rider Emiliano Portale has been eliminated from the Olympics after his horse was found to be bleeding from the mouth following the eventing dressage qualifiers.

www.bbc.com

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Paris 2024: Italian rider expelled after horse found bleeding

Italian rider Emiliano Portale has been eliminated from the Olympics after his horse was found to be bleeding from the mouth following the eventing dressage qualifiers.

www.bbc.com

In defence of this particular one, I believe the horse was found to have bitten itself which is why they are allowed to sub in a 4th rider - however I don't know for certain, it's just what I read. These things do happen too, whilst not ideal of course.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Yes, it was me that posted these in the CDJ thread.
Rolkur as a training method is banned, in what other sport can you do something at the Olympics that is banned and get a slap on the wrist and still allowed to compete?!?!?!?!
Anything that is unsavoury on any day of the comp in any arena, whip use, spur use, blood in mouth or on flanks, rolkur, horrid hands.. someone with the power to eliminate immediately should be supervising all rings, if we don't come down like a ton of bricks this will never stop happening! I would support that at every major show (although have no idea how we would fund it)

and Meg (the influencer one) posted a story tagging the rider and saying 'come on Team Brazil' stood next to him in a photo with it.

 

[Fjord]

Owner posted them and hastily deleted (they're screenshotted in the CJD thread actually if you scroll back a bit)

Page 36, just found it.

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

In defence of this particular one, I believe the horse was found to have bitten itself which is why they are allowed to sub in a 4th rider - however I don't know for certain, it's just what I read. These things do happen too, whilst not ideal of course.

Genuine question (for the room not necessarily you ASBMO), as I haven't come across it before outside of seeing reports about it in dressage... How and why do horses end up biting themselves in the mouth? And is there something about high-level competition that makes it more likely?

 

[TheMule]

The owner is a member of HHO
Though he usually only pops up to promote his stallion

 

[FieldOrnaments]

The owner is a member of HHO
Though he usually only pops up to promote his stallion

And?

 

[FieldOrnaments]

(Sorry. That wasn't meant to come across defensive at you TheMule.)

 

[ester]

The owner is a member of HHO
Though he usually only pops up to promote his stallion

Oh that's why it rang a bell. . .

 

[MidChristmasCrisis]

I was watching the test live and the commentator said something like oh I’ve heard a clink of bits and he noticed the blood and discussed what could have happened…biting tongue etc.

 

[Goldenstar]

Genuine question (for the room not necessarily you ASBMO), as I haven't come across it before outside of seeing reports about it in dressage... How and why do horses end up biting themselves in the mouth? And is there something about high-level competition that makes it more likely?

No it is not just a dressage thing you would probably find as many horses who bite themselves at a fun ride.

 

[ihatework]

Oh that's why it rang a bell. . .

He only pops up to promote his stallion(s), doesn’t contribute anything to the forum anyway.

It appears the rose tinted specs he has over his stallions appears to also filter into the training of his event horse. I’m gobsmacked it was him that blindly posted the photos!! I mean what an own goal.

It’s such a privilege and honour to have a homebred at the Olympics, and I’m in no way naive in the difficult dynamics involved in elite team sport for an owner, they often have far less say than they should have. But it’s given me a lot to think about too.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Genuine question (for the room not necessarily you ASBMO), as I haven't come across it before outside of seeing reports about it in dressage... How and why do horses end up biting themselves in the mouth? And is there something about high-level competition that makes it more likely?

I think some with fleshier mouths, or who may be a bit more mouthy in general or may have rubbed their face in a double and it may have pinched - some are definitely more succeptible than others to it.
Dex has done it once trying to chew his reins as a baby and just caught the front of his lip messing about

 

[ester]

He only pops up to promote his stallion(s), doesn’t contribute anything to the forum anyway.

It appears the rose tinted specs he has over his stallions appears to also filter into the training of his event horse. I’m gobsmacked it was him that blindly posted the photos!! I mean what an own goal.

It’s such a privilege and honour to have a homebred at the Olympics, and I’m in no way naive in the difficult dynamics involved in elite team sport for an owner, they often have far less say than they should have. But it’s given me a lot to think about too.

yup that's why I remembered him, lots of hey here's my stallion spam

 

[MagicMelon]

Am I going mad, wheres the Charlotte D post gone? Have HHO silenced everyone?

 

[ester]

Am I going mad, wheres the Charlotte D post gone? Have HHO silenced everyone?

CDJ withdrawn from paris

I talk to my horses all the time BUT, I have known RS owners who have controlled their horses by voice at quite a distance. I suppose it would be possible for someone ringside to use voice aids to sideline the rider I used to know one RS owner who could control a group of at least 10 horses on...

forums.horseandhound.co.uk

 

[spacefaer]

I've ridden a horse that was trained and competed by CP. I'm not surprised.

 

[ihatework]

I've ridden a horse that was trained and competed by CP. I'm not surprised.

Yup. I have a reasonably long list of event riders I’d never sell a horse to, and CP is on it!

 

[spacefaer]

Yup. I have a reasonably long list of event riders I’d never sell a horse to, and CP is on it!

My list is further restricted by "the people within reasonable travelling distance" as I'd never have mine with someone where I can't pop in.