Casino De Bornival

genie

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Hi.to anybody out there who may help.

On Saturday I travelled from my home in Scotland to a livery yard in Lancashire to look for a new pony/potential brood mare for myself( thought its about time I had a treat....dark nights are very long up here!)

I bought the KWPN pony I had gone to look at, but the yard owners grand daughter was putting just about the most athletic pony I have ever seen through its paces...my mouth dropped open.and I want this pony!!.....unfortunately, the child rider won''t be off ponies for some months to come......and I want first refusal!....in fact, I was so impressed by this gorgeous animal.and her very talented rider...that I would be interested in this bloodline all the way down the line.

So, my quest......does anybody have any idea of her blood lines? is her sire still knocking around....or possibly could he be for sale?....I believe the mare is by Helios....somebody bred this pony.........I wonder if its mother is still alive?.if she is, where is she.?

The yard owner told me this mare had bred 1 foal.....I would love to know where this foal is.........but thats about as much info as I could get from the owner..maybe they didn't know anymore?

Anyway, such talent.......such a beautiful pony.I am in love.....can anybody help me?.I don't mind travelling at all.....thanx. genie.
 

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Actually the first time you came on here was in 'The Yearling Thread' has it became known, posted by maid_marion, which got deleted... but I have a hard copy should Admin need one!

You never actually posted in the Bess is best thread in competition riders, which was also about this pony... mat does actually have his wires crossed there... I am sure he is sorry for that!! But the fact you know the details tells me that you are aquainted with the thread in question... which was also deleted! I actually have a hard copy of this thread as well... should Admin ever need one!

You then were on here in the 'AP & HG big day out at the EFU' thread... with maid_marion, that wasn't deleted but here is the link if you need reminding...

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post2573836

and now you are here asking about Bess (Casino de Bornival)...

sorry but you have to see, it all looks abit fishy... and I have never been one to believe in multiple coincidences...

Anyway, it's a lovely pony, send a message to maid_marion via the 'send message' button at the top of the page, she is the yard owner you would have seen on Saturday! She can tell you all you need to know about the pony... Good Luck!

Shame you don't 'care' for mat_b - he has a really cute 'magic' bum...

Oh and I wasn't entirely sure about the name of the friend from Scotland... so I may have been off the mark with that but I am sure I am not that far off the mark
 

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Shame you don't 'care' for mat_b - he has a really cute 'magic' bum...


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You didn't just say that, did you?!
 

genie

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Hi.....horse groupie. Not posted much here so thats how I can remember what was posted..and the stuff re the young jumping horse stuck cos of all the abuse the owners got....so, what you are saying is...the young jumping pony in that thread was this same one here bornival?????AKA Bess?.well its a small world..and mat b brought that thread up..not me....and I thought maybe I had spelled it wrong..and i couldn't remember her pet name at all.only had the full name cos I asked the rider. and thats what she told me.

also posted to someone re using too large words for common people to understand and I was again met with abuse..( and I was trying to be nice!!!)..not sure which thread that was in. seems that only people in an elite group aren't met with abuse then???.if I read info, it needs to be so I can understand it.and I have a lot of experience breeding...if I can't easily understand, how can a kid?. that was my point.don't think I have been on here since apart from this morning.but if you are collecting all the posts from here, maybe you could put me straight?.and also posted re breeding from maiden mares....this morning......and as far as I remember, only posted in breeding section cos that is all I am interested in..but I did have a nosey round when I first joined.and what did I notice? same old same old being nasty....that was also my point..but I can't remember their names either cos its so long ago.

Didn't realise my input was of such interest to people I probably never met..and I don't remember you at all, odd that you know what I have posted.

Anyway, the name of this is info.....I would love to know more about this pony. Can't get PMs to start up.not sure how it works....could you PM me with the info? maybe I can access it that way? I got several PMS last time I was on here...not sure how to set it off though.

5million people live in scotland..and plenty have friends all over UK....why pick on me??

Actually, I am confused here...if you owned the pony, sold the pony and wish the new owners well etc.....why was I greeted with such venom when I posted asking for info on a pony I simply want to buy?.and that venom didn't come from you at all.doesn't add up and doesn't make sense.maybe I am best off not knowing then.

The yard owner was reluctant to give me any further info....and I wouldn't know what threads have been deleted or not on here cos I don't come on very often..and how would I know if the owner posts on here or not??.didn't really get around to asking her!!


My post says.info wanted....was met with abuse and I don't know why..I posted and within minutes was replied to.and was told I am somebody I am not??.from somebody I don't know is male or female and I don't even know them.....major paranoia here or what?
I thought after I left england on sunday that maybe I could find more info or possibly siblings to this pony via here. a complicated and unusual name.somebody must know something about her breeding???.didn't post yesterday cos I stayed over at a friends in Penrith and didn't get back til late sunday evening...had several ponies to look at over quite a wide range of Lancashire..actually, bought a young filly by Midnite Marcus( connemara) from a woman in Applebly......maybe that will get me grief aswell???

I am known for being a bit blunt.and i don't suffer fools....and sometimes people take what I say the wrong way....and sometimes its very hard to put over a point on cyberspace the way it was intended.......there was no doubt about the stuff mat b wrote in reply to me.it was offensive..whether he has a magic bum or not.

so, if you can help me out here, I would genuinely appreciate it.....I have the yard owners number( obviously) but I didn't want to just source info from her.and she was reluctant to tell anyway.
 

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Both mat_b and I have given you all the information on this pony that we can, has suggested before you need to speak to maid_marion or ring her, seen has you said you bought a KWPN pony from there in your orignal post on this thread, I am sure you have contact details somewhere... I usually find them on bits of paper floating round my car but thats because I am untidy... I can help you no further I am afraid, has I have already given you on this thread the full history on how and who bred this pony, how I came to buy her and who I sold her to... there is really no more I can tell you... good luck with your quest... I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future.
 

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Shame you don't 'care' for mat_b - he has a really cute 'magic' bum...


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You didn't just say that, did you?!


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I did... I didn't feel his bum had had enough mentions recently and I am sure his ego enjoyed it being called cute!! (Not that I would know if its cute or not really because I have never actually seen his bum but you could ask AP how cute it is, he may not answer tho! *giggles*)
 

genie

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thanx for that...and what I need to know.are there any more any where like her that may be for sale now?....and thank you for giving me a civil reply. Sorry you seem to have had such grief re this pony.
 

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hi sorry dont know what has been deleted, as not been on line since early yesterday evening, would not have bothered now but my husband hibernated the computer last night and when i switched it on to order some wormers up pops hhf had a quick nosey and found your question, sorry did not really take you seriously at weekend please feel free to contact us and will tell you all. Sorry you had grief but just ring will be only too happy to speak seriously to you
 

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also posted to someone re using too large words for common people to understand and I was again met with abuse..( and I was trying to be nice!!!)..not sure which thread that was in.


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That was this thread... Thread about Breeding (click)

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odd that you know what I have posted.

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Not really.
Anyone can click on your username and it shows all the recent posts you have made, excluding the one that was deleted. As an infrequent poster it still shows all of yours.
 

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Sorry missed your last reply!

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thanx for that

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No problem


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and what I need to know.are there any more any where like her that may be for sale now

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I doubt it, the mare is no longer alive as far as I am aware. As far as the sire's side is concerned... I no longer breed ponies and also the stallion has a lower height limit for mares coming to him, so very unlikely there will be another pony by him... she is unique


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and thank you for giving me a civil reply

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My replies were the same as mat_b's, i think you just took what I said in a better fashion, perhaps I am more vocabularate


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Sorry you seem to have had such grief re this pony.

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I haven't had any grief over the pony
sorry not sure where you got that idea from


but good luck again with your quest and look forward to reading more of your posts in future
 
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