castration.

[rosie fronfelen]

we have been inundated with foxes lately, with 99% of them behaving unnaturally. a neighbour shot one the other nightas he had young lambs in the field and it had been castrated! how cruel can one be? also this is more evidence of dumped foxes in the countryside- RSPCA no doubt!!

 

[Irishcobs]

Was it definitely castrated or could it of been born with out them? Rare I know but it could happen. Or maybe it was a pet that got lost/released. Though what vet would castrate a fox I don't no.
I'm just not sure why anyone would castrate a wild animal and release it again.

 

[combat_claire]

The same sort of people that professionally amputate injured limbs of foxes before releasing them into a local woodland, or those that spray their mange with purple spray before again releasing them into the countryside. I'm not quite sure why they think that letting urban foxes starve to death is a humane way of dealing with them...this I heard from a Headkeeper, so I am convinced this is not a rural myth.

 

[Irishcobs]

In that case I am lost for words. What has this world come to..

 

[combat_claire]

A world where the general population believe that animal welfare is about preserving an animal at any cost. Where it is more acceptable to re-locate an animal out of its natural environment than to shoot it. These are urban foxes, used to towns and cities - they feed on scavenged human waste and no traffic and street lights, they are dumped in an area where bright lights generally mean a lamper and a rifle, where the menu is purely DIY and where the food supplies are only enough for the resident fox population. The really scary thing is that these people think they are being kind!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

it had definitely been castrated apparently. living in an isolated area where pest control is a big fact of life this is not a "first," we've had dumped foxes before but not for a while.

 

[matty007]

Such a$$holes arent they the RSPCA!. There they are trying to help animals, getting in the way of idiots who like to kill animals!!!.

When was the last time any of you lot rescued horses that had been left knee deep in a field of mud?. When did you last save a dogs life that had been beaten half to death and left to starve!. When did any of you lot spend a day stood outside a supermarket collecting money to help unwanted animals!.

I seem to remember the hunt faternity abusing the freepost appeal the RSPCA set up by posting bricks and telephone directories!.

Not very nice are you!.

 

[combat_claire]

How does releasing foxes in vast numbers into the same ecosystem from urban environments help them? Keepers have said it is like shooting fish in a barrel as the urban fox has no idea that they aren't supposed to stand stock still in the lamp to be shot.

And when was the last time the RSPCA ever achieved any of those admirable deeds? The last time anyone I know phoned up for assistance with an injured dog they were told to tie it to a tree and an officer would be out in the morning. They tell those with concerns about equine welfare that they are unable to act until the horse is so weak it is unable to get up. They put down animals they can't rehome The reason they don't have the funds is they spent it all lobbying against the hunting fraternity.

Is it any wonder any spare funds go towards the Dogs Trust & World Horse Welfare than an organisation which seems to have forgotten what the P in their acronym stands for?

And that was a LACS freepost scheme that was abused not an RSPCA one. Although neither organisation deserves a shred of respect for its misguided and dangerous actions.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

you need to not bandy around such unpleasant [****] for a start!! have you had to deal with lambing deaths every year, thanks to the fox?? no, doubt it, have you seen the poor things with their heads off, guts removed, tails off, blood sucked etc. dead chickens, ducks ad infinitum??! living where we do in an isolated area, we've had to put up with this "dumping " for years, the RSPCA is now a huge organisation which in it's own way does a good job with animals but it is too wrapped up in politics, especially lab. ones. how DARE you insinuate that we are uncaring towards dogs and other beasties, we love our animals more than life virtually, as for rattling tins outside supermarkets- huh, where exactly does that cash go, straight to the animals needs??? what about the small charities and small sanctuaries that are now struggling thanks to the lab.creation of the credit crunch? one last thing, all vermin need to be controlled or it gets out of hand- we like to see a healthy fox about, not at lambing time of course,but otherwise ok. i suggest you put your vitriol to better use and campaign against badger baiting, dog fights and all the other hideous cruelty that abounds in this not so animal friendly country of ours!!!!

 

[matty007]

"And that was a LACS freepost scheme that was abused not an RSPCA one."

Sorry about that, I thought it was the RSPCA.

"Although neither organisation deserves a shred of respect for its misguided and dangerous actions."

Just because they are apposed to hunting!!.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

nothing else to say all of a sudden?

 

[matty007]

Oh, I have plenty to say on the subject of hunting. To be honest I used to post on here lots, but got so bored of arguments going round in circles and speaking to morons that I only come back on here from time to time.

x

 

[rosie fronfelen]

so being as you are not a fan of hunting why stay on these threads being bored when you are debating a subject that you are against? your opinions are yours, not necessarily right or wrong, the same as everyone elses- only opinions!

 

[Kate260881]

@ Monkey Magic: Urm... this is the forum of Horse & Hound... a pro hunting publication. Did you think this forum would be full of anti-hunt people? What a strange place you live in.

As to the OP... WHAT??!?!! Who in their right mind would castrate a wild animal? Seems utterly bizarre to me!!

 

[combat_claire]

Just because they are apposed to hunting!!.

Not at all, I don't agree with their use of fund raising to act as a political lobby group without making it clear where the funds are going. Those who think it saves the poor cats and dogs are mistaken, as they would rather use the cash on a law that hasn't improved the life of one single fox, rather than on keeping their centres open to treat those animals in real need.

 

[JanetGeorge]

I'm just not sure why anyone would castrate a wild animal and release it again.

Because - in their bunny-hugging sort of way - they THINK they are being 'responsible' - the RSPCA and other 'rights' organisations see birth control as the only acceptable means of pest control.

Of course, castrating a fox (or almost any other predator) signs its death warrant. It will be turned on by both dog foxes and vixens alike as they can't understand what it IS!

 

[matty007]

I find it funny how the creator of this thread simply assumed the RSPCA castrated the fox and now everyone assumes that he/she is correct!. Why would a group who cares for animals want to do this?.

Janet - I only assume that you dont really care about animals as you class certain people as "bunny huggers". I would hate to think what would happen if animal charities such as the RSPCA didn't exist. What do you think would happen to all the abused animals in this country if they didnt?. I cant exactly see the selfish hunt fraternity doing alot!!.

 

[lhotse]

Please do tell, are you from the same group of 'animal lovers' that release large numbers of mink at the detriment of the struggling native species of this country???? You have about as much interest in the welfare of animals as the dumb ass chavs who support your cause. You have no idea do you???

 

[lhotse]

And as for the RSPCA, they are about as useless as shite. We have called them numorous times over the years and they have done NOTHING. Horses dead on the common, beaten until they have bled to death by pikeys, no water, no proper tethers, foals being driven with their legs going everywhere until they collapse. And still the RSPCA wouldn't visit, and they received calls from many people. I would add to their collection buckets in spit.

 

[JanetGeorge]

Janet - I only assume that you dont really care about animals as you class certain people as "bunny huggers". I would hate to think what would happen if animal charities such as the RSPCA didn't exist. What do you think would happen to all the abused animals in this country if they didnt?. I cant exactly see the selfish hunt fraternity doing alot!!.

Your assumptions are completely wrong (why aren't we surprised! :grin Ask my animals - including 3 rescued dogs, 55 pampered horses - several of them living a life of luxurious retirement in their old ages. And the wildlife I provide homes for including 4 large, active badger setts!!

And the 'selfish hunt fraternity' would include - no doubt - the stalkers who belong to deer management groups and spend many hours in inclement weather tracking down wounded deer so they can be humanely dispatched; the huntsmen who get out of their warm beds when called out to deal with casualty livestock or horses that need to be put out of their misery before morning .... you DO talk tripe!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

MMIB, you keep saying that you are bored and therefore going from these threads, well GO! you have nothing to contribute that isn't insulting to the hunting forum which this happens to be so just give your foul words and attitude a rest!! i am the contributor on the "castration"thread, female,(so what) and a huntsmans wife,we are also umpteen generations down the line of shepherds, we know exactly what goes on with these urban foxes and the cruelty that is bestowed on them by taking them from their comfort zones of the towns and dumping them in the country(no dustbins around here in the hills and forests!!!) their country cousins see them off as well, this has been noted before you bring up the "assumption" quote again! the castrated fox wasn't the first and we know at first hand this is an RSPCA job. you are in a position to argue these points are you?? what about the poisoning, the snaring andother hideous ways of killing foxes, shooting?? not everyone by a long way is a good shot to kill clean! keep arguing if you must but it's twaddle that you spew out- good luck to you.

 

[combat_claire]

Has anyone seen the Daily Telegraph Urban Foxwatch articles? The National Fox Welfare Society has been encouraging people to treat them as pets by putting out food for them in their gardens. As if their numbers weren't enough of a problem as it is!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

CC, did you see the article a few weeks back of the fox kept in a 1 bedroom flat, with the dogs and cat. subjected to a life of telly and snoozes under the duvet!!! fed on chicken and dog food, access out via the cat flap- it "always returns," i'm not surprised, poor thing won't know what it is! try returning that to the wild where it should be it'd be dead in a very short time.

 

[combat_claire]

I missed that, hopefully my parents are still saving them and it might be in the next batch. I pass them onto our huntsman, so when you hear he has choked to death on his cornflakes that will be my fault!

 

[joe_carby]

A friend of mine works on a big shoot of his dads to which they were having an huge fox problem, little did they know that one night out lamping they would see the RSPCA illegally tresspassing on there land releasing 9 foxes. This was on a friday night so that there wasnt as much for them to do over the weekend. They thought just for interests sake they would go and see if they turned up again, this time as they were released they were shot 1 by 1 to which the RSPCA officer jumped in his van and dissappeared, but the gates had been locked and he was locked in. The foxes were collected up and handed back to him to go and dispose of. 3 out of the 5 foxes released on the second date had mange, and other foxes that got shot had been found with plastic entangled in their guts so obviously were not the healthy country foxes to which the @@@@@~~ROYAL SOCIETY FOR THE PROTECTION OF ANIMALS@@@@@~~ should be releasing. But hey what a wonderful organisation giving a city animal the chance to view countryside before sending it to a death of pain and malnutrition terrified of everything around it, thinking where the hell do i live there are no sheds to get under.