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Following on from watching Dangerous Dogs and how the man with the Pitbull thought that his dog would change and hate him because he was being castrated, can someone explain to me why some people are so against it? It's normally men that seem to have the problem with it, and I for one cannot understand it. In my eyes, it makes life easier for everyone, including the dog.

So can anyone explain to me why some see it as a problem?
 
I don't see it as a problem at all. Personally I would castrate all animals that are not part of a breeding selection plan. Like with bulldogs, they have been inbred to the extent that they can't breathe. If they were bred out instead of in they would be healthier examples of the breed but sadly this is allowed to happen. Over breeding is a massive issue. People need to stop breeding their family pets and leave it to registered breeders. All family pets should be castrated to make life easier. No horrible seasons where they are miserable for weeks on end.
 
I really don't understand it either, and as you say it is more often than not men who are oversensitive about their male dogs losing their bits. I did a homecheck once for GSD rescue and a condition of rehoming was that dogs/bitches were neutered. The man of the family stated that he was happy to have a bitch spayed but wouldn't have a dog castrated, so as the spaying is a far bigger operation it obviously wasn't the surgery that bothered him!
 
Yes it is defenatly a male thing lol. Although my partner is ok with that sort of thing. He agrees that too many males are being left entire and would prefer it if they were all neutered. Mainly because when our pup went into season for the first time people would just let their dogs run off. Luckily I always have her on a lead or lunge line. Thankfully now she is spayed but I highly recommend spaying and neutering for all pets
 
I think that's why I never really understood, as growing up with pets, my dad never had a problem with spaying or castrating them. I'm not really sure why men seem to be so attached to their dogs' balls... I think it must be that they somehow feel emasculated, or think the dog will feel so, if they are castrated. I once watched a programme where a dog was castrated and had implants fitted so it looked like the dog was entire...
 
I wouldn't care it looks so much better without the nads hanging down, I hate seeing dogs nads:p its not why I have mine castrated but Im just saying. Male bits in any species are rank :o
 
I have heard about a young monorchid that the owner had a neuticle put in. By the time the dog got to crufts the second real testicle had dropped. The judge found a dog with 3 balls!! Not sure if this is true or just urban myth.
 
Glad you didn't say something lol that would have been rather embarrassing to have to point out. Uhm excuse me judge but that dog has fake testicles. Not really something you would ever expect to say never mind hear
 
satinbaze said:
I have heard about a young monorchid that the owner had a neuticle put in. By the time the dog got to crufts the second real testicle had dropped. The judge found a dog with 3 balls!! Not sure if this is true or just urban myth.
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No I heard that too. Imagine that though the judge must have had a mental breakdown.
 
Winners produce better breed profiles. Yeah it's great to have a pedigree dog but because of the way they breed them (mother to sun/father to daughter) they end up sick or with major health problems. My husky is a small bred one. All of her brothers and sisters were also small as are her parents. I chose a smaller bee one simply because I liked the idea that she was specifically bred smaller to be around children
 
Before he moved in with me, my husband had no experience with dogs. The Labrador I had at the time was already neutered by then, so the subject never came up. When our male Dalmatian, Loki, came along, my husband was a bit iffy every time I even mentioned having it done. We stopped breeding Dals many years ago in our family, and kept them only as pets afterward, so there was no reason for him to be entire. Still, the husband cringed, and occasionally crossed his legs for good measure. When Loki was a year old I did have it done, but by then my husband had gotten it through his male head that castrating the dog was not castrating him by extension.

I saw that neuticle thing as well... bizarre! I remember frowning and asking why on Earth I would want fake ones put in, when I just paid someone to have the real ones taken away! If it is for the 'look', I can happily do without, and so can the dogs.
 
I suppose for showing purposes then fair enough it is just rather bizarre. Speaking of men and their issues with castrating animals my partner has suddenly decided he is in fact against our colt getting gelded. I'm still going ahead with it though.
 
Sizzlea89 said:
Winners produce better breed profiles. Yeah it's great to have a pedigree dog but because of the way they breed them (mother to sun/father to daughter) they end up sick or with major health problems. My husky is a small bred one. All of her brothers and sisters were also small as are her parents. I chose a smaller bee one simply because I liked the idea that she was specifically bred smaller to be around children
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So you don't know anything about breeding but bought one that was specifically bred to not be to breed standard?
You are not allowed to breed parents to offspring or brother to sister and the health problems come about when people ignore the need for testing and breed just to sell as pets - they don't care about health or type - just sellability.
Dogs have to have two normally descended testicles because cryporchidism is hereditary so balls have to be counted at shows. It is not unusual ofr have castrated males in veteran classes.
 
Thanks for answering that for me s4sugar and Sizzlea. Surely though castration shouldn't really have an affect though, as even if the dog did have cryporchidism which was hereditary, the dog is castrated so can't pass on that defect anyway...
 
Sizzlea89 said:
I specifically got my dog because she is bred smaller making her less likely to knock my child over.
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Exactly - no reputable breeder would have bred smaller huskies or have sold you one if you were worried about a child being knocked over.
 
vikkiandmonica said:
Thanks for answering that for me s4sugar and Sizzlea. Surely though castration shouldn't really have an affect though, as even if the dog did have cryporchidism which was hereditary, the dog is castrated so can't pass on that defect anyway...
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Only males exhibit the defect and if the dog is castrated you can't tell if it had two to start with. You already can't tell if a bitch has the duff gene and it is very common in pet populations where it is not selected against.
You need KC permission to show a neutered dog unless it already has progeny . Early neutering does affect growth & coat and entire canines are not difficult to keep - most neutering is done for the owners convenience. If you have more than one dog it may be more needed or if your dog has to mix on a daily basis fair enough.
 
Well actually they were bred by a reputable breeder who has donated puppies as hearing and guide dogs. They wernt in it for the money at all. He just selected smaller huskies and bred them down. I did a lot of research and there was a whole controversy about inbreeding a couple of years ago.
 
Sizzlea89 said:
Well actually they were bred by a reputable breeder who has donated puppies as hearing and guide dogs. They wernt in it for the money at all. He just selected smaller huskies and bred them down. I did a lot of research and there was a whole controversy about inbreeding a couple of years ago.
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The controversy was from people with little knowledge and quick to jump on a bandwagon. It became a mantra for puppy farmers.
Since when have huskies been used for hearing & guide dogs?
Huskies have a huge rescue problem so no reason to breed for the pet market - you paid for the puppy didn't you? Did you check the parents eye & hip tests?



Some people believe anything they are told by someone selling - there is a term "sold a pup" for a reason.
 
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All my dogs are "done" bar one. The rescue obviously came neutered and the others I had done. The Lakeland terrier has not been done as he is only 11 months, so too young and also if he turns out to be good at his job my OH will want to breed from him. If he isn't, he will stay as a pet and be neutered.
 
Sizzlea89 said:
I specifically got my dog because she is bred smaller making her less likely to knock my child over.
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OK....Confused.com here! I gather that you have a husky, albeit a small one. Sooo........how big to the shoulder is this dog actually and how old/big are your children? The breed standard allows a 21 inch bitch to be about 35lbs, so just wondering how small your dog is and how many generations your breeder has been breeding these dogs for, which I guess are not conforming to the breed standard and therefore not KC registered.....or???

For me it has always been training and management that stops dogs jumping up and knocking over children or the frail.

Would also be very interested to see any pics/papers relating to huskies being used as guide dogs..............have a friend at the l.spa breeding centre and have never heard him mention them.
 
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