Caudal Heel Pain & Navicular Syndrome help please

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Hi any one have any experience of Caudal Heel Pain & Navicular Syndrome. Our vet suspects it and may either do a MRI or alternatively prescribe anti inflammatory's. He is a cob and whilst he is fine when being ridden by an experienced rider in balance and forward. Yet when ridden less forward by a novice he looks a bit off behind and throws the odd canter stride in when in trot. The vet feels he may be a bit odd behind as he is compensating for the front hoof, his is slightly less than one tenth lame. many thanks x
 
IMO it is most horses best chance of recovery. Any hoof pics, us geeks like a good hoof pic, preferably side on camera on floor, sole shot, back of heels and a slow mo walking video to check if landing toe first ;)

Have you read the rockley blog? If not start with a mooch round there and if you search Lucy priory hoof blog another good one will come up.

Success is diet, movement, trim in that order and a good dose of patience but most find it worth the wait.
The only issue is the year limit on the insurance which is why people often do all of that first- in had a different diagnosis and did 2 lots of remedial shoeing first with mine but had a definite time limit inn how long I would wait for that to work and I would suspect you to have an idea whether barefoot will likely work after a few months so time to go back to the insurance if you needed to.
 
ester said:
IMO it is most horses best chance of recovery. Any hoof pics, us geeks like a good hoof pic, preferably side on camera on floor, sole shot, back of heels and a slow mo walking video to check if landing toe first ;)

Have you read the rockley blog? If not start with a mooch round there and if you search Lucy priory hoof blog another good one will come up.

Success is diet, movement, trim in that order and a good dose of patience but most find it worth the wait.
The only issue is the year limit on the insurance which is why people often do all of that first- in had a different diagnosis and did 2 lots of remedial shoeing first with mine but had a definite time limit inn how long I would wait for that to work and I would suspect you to have an idea whether barefoot will likely work after a few months so time to go back to the insurance if you needed to.
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thank you
 
Yes, I am rehabbing my dressage horse following diagnosis with navicular issues and torn DDFT. He went lame suddenly mid September last year, in hindsight I think he'd been breaking down for a while as we had a few performance niggles over the summer. The full scale of his lameness was diagnosed by MRI in October, remedial bar shoe recommended and a poor prognosis for recovery given.
After much research I got the shoe removed at the end of November. My vet was supportive of sending him to Rockley Farm however as there was a 10 week waiting list I decided to give rehabbing a go myself.
He was much sounder straight away and continued to improve, trotted up sound at the start of March and has just started ridden walk work this week.
As Ester has already said, diet is key along with movement and patience. There are plenty of experienced people here who will advise, the Rockley Farm blog is also really useful
 
Puddleduck said:
Yes, I am rehabbing my dressage horse following diagnosis with navicular issues and torn DDFT. He went lame suddenly mid September last year, in hindsight I think he'd been breaking down for a while as we had a few performance niggles over the summer. The full scale of his lameness was diagnosed by MRI in October, remedial bar shoe recommended and a poor prognosis for recovery given.
After much research I got the shoe removed at the end of November. My vet was supportive of sending him to Rockley Farm however as there was a 10 week waiting list I decided to give rehabbing a go myself.
He was much sounder straight away and continued to improve, trotted up sound at the start of March and has just started ridden walk work this week.
As Ester has already said, diet is key along with movement and patience. There are plenty of experienced people here who will advise, the Rockley Farm blog is also really useful
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Thank you, he had bar shoes fitted a couple of months a go, perhaps an MRI will give us a conclusive answer and we can then get on with the correct recovery regime. Although shoes off does seem a good option to reduce the shock, i always feel with shoes they are always working on a hard surface, does that make any sense? not sure anymore.
 
PONYPC said:
Thank you, he had bar shoes fitted a couple of months a go, perhaps an MRI will give us a conclusive answer and we can then get on with the correct recovery regime. Although shoes off does seem a good option to reduce the shock, i always feel with shoes they are always working on a hard surface, does that make any sense? not sure anymore.
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Last published figures for a Rockley barefoot rehab were that of the horses that could still be traced, nearly eighty per cent were in work, many in more work than before they were lame. Ask your vet if he can get anywhere near that success rate with conventional treatment.

It's not about reducing shock, it's about building a hoof which has the correct support for the structures inside it, and it can't do that in a shoe, never mind in a bar shoe.

Please take a look at rockleyfarm.blogspot.com

I've done three at home and advised friends on three others. All came back into full work. I've had one failure, which had a bone spur on the navicular, clearly seen on x ray.

Buy this book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Performanc...=1490944241&sr=8-1&keywords=performance+horse
 
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Another who would take off the shoes .
On the insurance do be care don't worry about money because the moment the vet says the N word the clock is ticking and in a year they will exclude the feet .
 
There's a paper back version, it just costs a lot more :)

It should be required reading on the farrier training syllabus imo.
 
ycbm said:
Buy this book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Performanc...=1490944241&sr=8-1&keywords=performance+horse
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Thank you for the book recommendation, just spent an informative morning reading it!
OP my mare had Mri at xmas following months of intermittent lameness. She was diagnosed with significant tears in both front deep digital flexor tendons. I have taken her barefoot and am attempting the rehab myself... We're just at the start but I am already a convert. The rockley blogs and threads on here have really helped.
Good luck!
 
ycbm said:
There's a paper back version, it just costs a lot more :)8

It should be required reading on the farrier training syllabus imo.
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Is there? Didn't see that when I last looked on Amazon.

I can add in one of his old bar shoes if I need some added clout for hitting with. ;)

I might have to do a year post rockley update soon.
 
fairhill said:
Thank you for the book recommendation, just spent an informative morning reading it!
OP my mare had Mri at xmas following months of intermittent lameness. She was diagnosed with significant tears in both front deep digital flexor tendons. I have taken her barefoot and am attempting the rehab myself... We're just at the start but I am already a convert. The rockley blogs and threads on here have really helped.
Good luck!
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We're both in Cheshire. If you want a stranger's eye cast over, let me know. I'm no expert, but I seem to have done OK with the ones I've been involved with.
 
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Is there? Didn't see that when I last looked on Amazon.

I can add in one of his old bar shoes if I need some added clout for hitting with. ;)

I might have to do a year post rockley update soon.
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Oh good idea. Pop a bar shoe in the middle, that should do nicely to whack people with :)

Paperback edition was on Amazon yesterday at 10.99
 
Aw, that very kind of you but I live in the fens now. Probably should update location!
I think moving from the hills of the Pennines to the incredibly flat area we are now in is what did her tendons in :)
If I get brave I'll post my own thread with photos of where we are at now. Just had a six week break in rehab after yard had strangles and I can categorically say that in my mares case 2 week box rest was not helpful.
 
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