crazycoloured
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Has anyone used this specialist? My mare is being refered to him with a lameness problem.just wanted to know what people thought of him?? I have heard he is very good but wondered if anyone else had used him.
cedric chan vet,someford park
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cptrayes
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Cedric Chan did my horse's tieback and he is impossible to tell from a horse without one, so I rate him. The horse does not cough, can be fed completely normally, and breathes well. Cedric was Eqine Vet with the Olympic team and he certainly does know what he is doing. I spent several sessions talking to him, but I haven't met Simon Cowell so I don't know how like him he is 
Nokia I think you should have queried that bill, it sounds like an administrative mistake unless your horse had a very lengthy lameness workup. He charges £800 to do a tieback operation and not only stays for the full recovery until the horse is back in its box, but follows up in person before he signs it off to go home.
What is wrong with him driving a smart car? He spent ten years at least studying and training to get where he is. A bog standard business consultant or qualified accountant charges a LOT more than that per day and it's his business what he spends it on, surely?
I would advise you to go with all your questions written down, and be assertive in requesting the time to talk them through, not a shrinking violet in the presence of an "expert". He is a nice man, talk to him.
Nokia I think you should have queried that bill, it sounds like an administrative mistake unless your horse had a very lengthy lameness workup. He charges £800 to do a tieback operation and not only stays for the full recovery until the horse is back in its box, but follows up in person before he signs it off to go home.
What is wrong with him driving a smart car? He spent ten years at least studying and training to get where he is. A bog standard business consultant or qualified accountant charges a LOT more than that per day and it's his business what he spends it on, surely?
I would advise you to go with all your questions written down, and be assertive in requesting the time to talk them through, not a shrinking violet in the presence of an "expert". He is a nice man, talk to him.
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crazycoloured
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Nope he cannot seem to find the problem,we have been reffered to cedric chan..did he find the cause of the problem for £800 i would assume he did..
nokia
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i never said he was not a nice man, he is .
But when i have got 5k to spend to get my horse right, i need value for money, i need the best service possible, and most importantly the horse sound again.
The equine insurance world is responsible for many a vet having a fantastic house, a car worth more money than most peoples houses ect.
Vets dont look at the people at home struggling to pay their bills, vets do screw us, you only have to see the massive savings that can be made for drugs bought on line instead of the practice.
Just because somebody is a "name" does not make them the best, the vets all stick together they all look after themselves.
If my vet i was using could not treat the lameness, id get another vet...what did we used to do before these "equine consultants"
I did query the bill, but thats how much it was, id be asking for his hourley rate before i used him.
Im being frank and honest here...we are in the middle of a resession, people are skint, and being horse owners we need more assistance from the equine services industries to give us horse owners a fair deal.
But when i have got 5k to spend to get my horse right, i need value for money, i need the best service possible, and most importantly the horse sound again.
The equine insurance world is responsible for many a vet having a fantastic house, a car worth more money than most peoples houses ect.
Vets dont look at the people at home struggling to pay their bills, vets do screw us, you only have to see the massive savings that can be made for drugs bought on line instead of the practice.
Just because somebody is a "name" does not make them the best, the vets all stick together they all look after themselves.
If my vet i was using could not treat the lameness, id get another vet...what did we used to do before these "equine consultants"
I did query the bill, but thats how much it was, id be asking for his hourley rate before i used him.
Im being frank and honest here...we are in the middle of a resession, people are skint, and being horse owners we need more assistance from the equine services industries to give us horse owners a fair deal.
soulfull
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I have used him twice. yes he was the vet for the Olympics in fact he asked if he could take my horse with him for company as was going the next week lol
He injected his withers where he had damaged his ligaments, was very thorough.
Then when he did his annular ligament he did the scan etc, didn't automatically sedate as horse was so good, which too me said he treated horses individually. Horse came sound very quickly with the treatment he recommended.
The only thing was my horse had another issue going on that no one ever got to the bottom of as it was too intermittent but I don't blame Cedric for this
he also operated twice on my friends 3yr WC who had mouth cancer, he did the best he could without taking half his face away but the cancer came back and we had to have him PTS
I found him VERY helpful and he explained ALL the options in plain English as well as technical. Advice was sound and he Gave me time to decide what I wanted to do.
Most importantly he listened too me!!!!!!!!
He injected his withers where he had damaged his ligaments, was very thorough.
Then when he did his annular ligament he did the scan etc, didn't automatically sedate as horse was so good, which too me said he treated horses individually. Horse came sound very quickly with the treatment he recommended.
The only thing was my horse had another issue going on that no one ever got to the bottom of as it was too intermittent but I don't blame Cedric for this
he also operated twice on my friends 3yr WC who had mouth cancer, he did the best he could without taking half his face away but the cancer came back and we had to have him PTS
I found him VERY helpful and he explained ALL the options in plain English as well as technical. Advice was sound and he Gave me time to decide what I wanted to do.
Most importantly he listened too me!!!!!!!!
BrynThePony
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He did my old boy's sinus operation - I thought he was excellent
crazycoloured
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My friend took her mare there and said he was fantastic and he can work on a budget which is usefull.She said he explains everything and is very thorough..i cant wait to meet him and see what he says.
glenruby
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(OP- For the record, CC is an excellent surgeon - go for it!)
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crazycoloured
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Thanks glenruby,just waiting for vet to get back to me with appointment then we'l be on our way..
Keflavik
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Don't quite understand where this rant has come from. Tempting to ignore it however since this topic seems to arise regularly on these forums -worth making a couple of points:-
Why should the car your vet drives or the house he lives in bother you? Presumably he has worked hard to attain these. My dentist drives a 60 registered Porsche and lives in a mansion, however as long as he does a good job on my teeth good luck to him.
Of course you are entitled to query a vet bill & request an itemised account BUT remember that insurance companies will also scrutinise vet bills and are quick to query any charges which they feel are inappropriate.
Since it is estimated that approximately 30% of horses in the UK are insured, presumably vets are getting fat off insured horses but subsidising non-insured ones - NOT the case I think you'll find.
The cost of drugs via Internet providers compared to Vets has been done to death, and the reasons for this well-documented in this and other forums. May I suggest that next time you have a colicky horse at 11 pm, you phone your Internet provider & see what response you get.
Yes, there is a recession - but has it occured to you that it may also be affecting your vet?
Lastly, and most importantly, just remember that a number of vets can view these forums and frequently offer advice and support usually in their 'free time' and at no cost to other forum users.
Happy New Year!
soulfull
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Allover
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He operated on my boys OCD. He made an excellent job of the surgery and never had any problems since. He was x-rayed for grading etc and you cant tell there was ever any problems in his joints
cptrayes
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Off the topic, but this ^^^ worries me. Surely the whole point of grading is to weed out animals with flaws like OCD, that can be genetic???? If he is a stallion then I would be horrified. If you graded him to make him worth more, or to count for his mother's offspring to be worth more, then to be honest, that would border on fraudulent, wouldn't it ? I do hope that you are going to tell us that you graded him for your own satisfaction and never intend to sell him or breed with him except to keep his stock for yourself.
? I do hope that you are going to tell us that you graded him for your own satisfaction and never intend to sell him or breed with him except to keep his stock for yourself.Allover
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Off the topic, but this ^^^ worries me. Surely the whole point of grading is to weed out animals with flaws like OCD, that can be genetic???? If he is a stallion then I would be horrified. If you graded him to make him worth more, or to count for his mother's offspring to be worth more, then to be honest, that would border on fraudulent, wouldn't it
See your point, when i found out about his "issues", he was on livery with a family member and i was living in France. As soon as the word OCD was used in relation to his being lame i said we may as well PTS now as i am not having a horse that is going to have problems all his life with dodgy joints and definately would not keep him entire. Anyway i spoke with CC and he said he was pretty certain that the damage was caused by him rearing in the field and coming down hard in a rabbit hole or the like, i had his fetlocks, hocks and stifles x-rayed before i made the decision to operate on the "OCD". So even though it may have been OCD there is a strong chance that it wasnt. As for history of OCD in the family, on the mares side there is no history of any joint issues at least 3 generations back (owned in the family) and a bit of digging on the stallion side did not highlight any problems with this disease. He was graded as i was anti keeping stallions that are not worthy of being entire and wanted unbiased professional opinions as to whether he was really good enough. He passed with flying colours. When it came to selling him i spoke to the rider of the stallion (top 10 rolex world rankings), he came to see him and i told him all about his problems, he was trotted on hard surfaces with no problems and he had him.
cptrayes
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Thanks for telling us that, an accident is a whole different matter. Congratulations on the grading, I hope he's doing well.
tristar
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i wonder if its the same person who told me a blatent barefaced lie? can't be many vets called chan