Change my mind EDT V VET shocked

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I have always believed in having an EDT do teeth. However I had Micahs done only 2 wks ago and EDT told me to get the wolf tooth out, (fair enough, didn't know he had one) either vet sedate and do tooth or she would remove it.

Anyway as my vet also done extra dentist training I got him to do it today. He then showed me that dentist had missed two teeth at the back that were cutting into his gums
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So now I don't know what to do in future!!
 
Depends, if you have a good vet id go with him personally. If vet actually has done training in dentistrythen Id be inclined to go with him anyway. Vet sedating on top of getting EDT to do the teeth can work out v expensive. In my experieince EDTs can be very hit and miss(some excellent ones and some cowboys - often not actually qualified though), however most equine vets tend to be of a good standard - especially those who have done any dentistry course (and many new graduaes do courses in their first yr of practice now).
 
I know that some people swear by their EDT's but, I always have the vet to do my lot's teeth. Vets now do dentistry courses and ours is very good. Also it helps if you need a horse sedated. So, in answer to your question, I would get the vet.
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You know sometimes I wonder if it is a bit like a tradesman thing
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When we renovated a house several years ago the joiner would slag the builder the builder would slag the electrician etc etc. I do wonder if it is the same sort of things to say vet is better than EDT and vice versa.

All makes it very difficult for us poor owners to fathom!!

Did the tooth extraction go okay anyway?
 
I had similar thing and me and my vet pondered whether the dentist just couldn't be bothered to get to the difficult to reach areas!?!?! who knows. I now use a EDT who does all the local work for vets plus my vet is pretty good with teeth so am very confident in the both of them as they also work well together to discuss any issues my neds are having :-)
 
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you cant tar everyone with the same brush.............but sorry to hear you had a problem.
Was the EDT qualified? if so you can report them to the BAEDT if they are qualified and a member.

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Yes fully qualified and highly recommended too
 
I have seen vets sedate horses very quickly rather than try to give a horse time to let them do their job. It is so much easier for them just to sedate the horse than it is for an EDT.

I expect there are good and bad vets and good and bad EDTs. I'd go by recommendation on this one.
 
DarkhorseB - I havent found that to be honest. All the vets I know will never say anything bad about a farrier/physio/other vet/EDT etc - even about the thoroughly useless ones out there! We were often told in college to respect the other professionals we deal with and that its better for business not to be drawn into debates about how good or bad individual vets/EDTs/physios are - and also not to comment on the quality of other vets/EDTs work (unless its so bad as to be a welfare issue). Sure its part of our job to recommend the best farriers/EDts/Physios that we know, and we have no obligation to recommend the bad ones, but 99% of vets I have come across wont talk badly professionally of any other EDT/vet/farrier. Teamwork with other equine professionals in the area of your practice is vital.
Im assuming your vet told you the horse had some sharp back teeth as opposed to actually saying your EDT was poor. Personally, based on the vets and EDTs I know, Id choose an equine vet.
 
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You know sometimes I wonder if it is a bit like a tradesman thing
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When we renovated a house several years ago the joiner would slag the builder the builder would slag the electrician etc etc. I do wonder if it is the same sort of things to say vet is better than EDT and vice versa.

All makes it very difficult for us poor owners to fathom!!

Did the tooth extraction go okay anyway?

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I wondered that too.. but vet did also say that it was really difficult to spot without sedation (he is a really nice guy and wouldn't slag someone else off deliberately) yes all went well thank you, it was only tiny in the end
 
merry elf, vets are fantasic at their job and they all specialise in different areas; some really specialise in dentistry and go to the extent of taking the BEVA exam which is great. Some take extra courses but these courses are 2 days long and they work in groups.............it took me 4 years to qualify with over 1000 hours of training. Not 12 hours over a weekend course.

I know doing the extra course is definately not a bad thing but just like an EDT taking minimal training, it doesnt make them an expert.
 
QUOTE:- Im assuming your vet told you the horse had some sharp back teeth as opposed to actually saying your EDT was poor. Personally, based on the vets and EDTs I know, Id choose an equine vet.

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yes he would NEVER run another person down. and I am not saying the EDT is bad just missed it on this occasion,. But I don't want this happening again
 
Soulful, thats not good. If you want to make a complaint (even just an e mail to the BAEDT would suffice), let me know and I will give you contact details. The BAEDT promotes high standards but if horseowners dont let them know when a bad job has been found, it is difficult for them to continue these high standards :-)
 
The vet came to us one day to do just vacs ect, he then suggested to have a look at the 2 horses teeth, I agreed thinking it would save some money, Never again he managed to upset 2 normally very good horses, EDT for me every time now, and he is a very quite and understanding guy never flusters the horses and explains everything he is doing, I wouldn't go to the doctors to get a filling, just think you were unlucky.
 
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vets are fantasic at their job and they all specialise in different areas; some really specialise in dentistry and go to the extent of taking the BEVA exam which is great. Some take extra courses but these courses are 2 days long and they work in groups.............it took me 4 years to qualify with over 1000 hours of training. Not 12 hours over a weekend course.

I know doing the extra course is definately not a bad thing but just like an EDT taking minimal training, it doesnt make them an expert.

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Which is why I have always gone with EDT but am now worried about what to do in the future............... My vet is good BUT I don't know if I have 100% confidence in him for taking fully responsibility for dentist work. I guess I could do what I used to with Beacon which was once a year vet did vaccinations and teeth, then 6 months later had an EDT, as I guess now they are all done (I HOPE) that it shouldn't be too much of a problem

But is vet right in that without sedation it is very difficult for EDT's to get right to the back on some horses??

BTW Micah was exceptionally good for EDT in fact he seemed to really enjoy having it done lol
 
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Soulful, thats not good. If you want to make a complaint (even just an e mail to the BAEDT would suffice), let me know and I will give you contact details. The BAEDT promotes high standards but if horseowners dont let them know when a bad job has been found, it is difficult for them to continue these high standards :-)

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I guess so but that would mean they would want to talk to my vet and I know he wouldn't run her down (he really is such a nice guy it would upset him)....maybe I will talk to him first see if he is ok for me to do this??
 
No thats not right in my opinion, I can get right to the back of 95% of the horses mouths i do without sedation and the small % that do need sedation are sedated because it is dangerous for anyone to do as they may rear etc and pointless in doing teeth to as you cant do a thorough job with the horse trying to kill you as they dont like dentistry full stop!

If you feel happy, perhaps you are right; have EDT then next time the vet and so on, until you feel happy with the EDT you choose.

Where are you and I can try recommend you a good EDT. PM me if you like
 
If he had been awkward to do it would have been easier to forgive.. I think maybe vet was sticking up for EDT to be honest. but thought I would ask

That would be good thanks I live in Stafford
 
Thank you!! have put number in phone

I will think about sending them an email. As I say tho, they won't be interested unless my vet is also willing to say what he found and I think he won't want to get anyone in trouble

thanks
 
You may not have to make a formal complaint, if you just e mail them and let them know what happened and who the EDT was they can then make sure the keep an eye on them or perhaps make them attend a training course.
 
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