Cheapest pre/pro biotics

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Just wondering if anyone can help guide me... horse will probably need a pre/pro bio at some point in the near future... just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of the cheapest one!
 
I would say yea-sacc (pro biotic) and brewer's yeast (pre biotic). I wouldn't feed yoghurt as it's dairy, and iirc doesn't contain sufficient levels of bacteria to benefit a horse. Protexin is good, but I think it works out more expensive than yea-sacc, and I haven't found it any more effective, personally.
 
TwoStroke said:
I would say yea-sacc (pro biotic) and brewer's yeast (pre biotic). I wouldn't feed yoghurt as it's dairy, and iirc doesn't contain sufficient levels of bacteria to benefit a horse. Protexin is good, but I think it works out more expensive than yea-sacc, and I haven't found it any more effective, personally.
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Ah this sounds interesting. My guy is fed Pure condition and it contains Brewers Yeast, however, I am not sure if it contains a probiotic??? :confused:

If I bought some Yea-sacc would this balance it out?
 
ktj1891 said:
Ah this sounds interesting. My guy is fed Pure condition and it contains Brewers Yeast, however, I am not sure if it contains a probiotic??? :confused:

If I bought some Yea-sacc would this balance it out?
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I think Pure Condition only has pre-biotics in it, so yes - yea-sacc would be good to add if you want a pro biotic :).
 
ktj1891 said:
I just emailed Pure Company and they have said the probiotic is Profeed*
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I think the Pure Feed Company may be a tad confused :D. This is taken from their website:

Pure Balance is the original molasses and cereal free feed balancer containing optimum levels of vitamins, minerals and essential amino acids, plus a unique combination of Brewers Yeast and the prebiotic Profeed® consisting of short chain Fructo-oligasaccharides (FOS)
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According to this, Profeed is just fructans (WSCs)?
 
Tbh, I would be tempted to go with the brewers yeast and yea sacc as well. Yea sacc is a live yeast, brewers yeast is food for bacteria.
 
TwoStroke said:
I would say yea-sacc (pro biotic) and brewer's yeast (pre biotic). .
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Both are Saccharomyces cerevisiae, just one is a live yeast, one dead. Both probiotics in that they contain microbes.
Yeasacc is more expensive but you feed less so evens out, I feed brewers yeast just because it also contains some useful B vits including biotin as well as the yeast.

Prebiotics various oligosaccharides that encourage the right environment for the necessary bacteria
 
Protexin Gut balancer is £13.95 for the smallest pot which lasts apparently (I'm only a fortnight in) about a month. Highly recommended to me by many people.
 
Brewers yeast is a 'dead' yeast and as a by product of the brewing industry there is no control over its quality or production and therefore its action if any is questionable.

I have a WB who has ulcers/EGUS and I have tried just about every thing on him with varying degrees of success. I finally stated using Alltechs Lifeforce in about October last year and he has been on it all winter - it has made a huge difference to him - all the grumpiness has gone, no going backwards under saddle etc etc. Most importantly it has been the cheapest winter ever in terms of feeding as he has just alfalfa and hay - he has maintined hi weight well and has plenty of energy, his hooves have improved hugely to which is an added bonus. It contains Yea-Sacc and other live yeast cultures, organic minerals etc as well as a mycotoxin binder and mostly importantly unlike a lot of the other supplements it is apporved for use by the FEI in ALL levels of comptetiton. It works out at about £1 a day but has saved me more then that in different feeds and supplements.

Although there were definite improvements in the first month it was probably 2/3 months before they disappeared totally. His cribbing and windsucking is also minimal now but no more biting when being girthed up etc and definitely a happier horse.:D

I get it from here

http://www.rutlandhorseextras.co.uk/

For more info on myctoxins look on here

http://www.knowmycotoxins.com/horse.htm

Following the bad weather of the last 6-9 months measn that mycotoxins will be a very real issue in the food chain for horses for the next 12 - 18 months.
 
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It is a combination of their products - Yea-Sacc, Mycosorb, Bio-plex, Sel-Plex and Bio-Mos. all of them have been approved for use by the FDA and the EU - The FEI has approved Lifeforce for use in all levels of competition and they are the sponsors of the WEG in Normandy and were in Kentucky they alos sponsor Windsor Horse Show and the Puissance at Olympia so understand the importance of testing and is used by some top competitors across all disciplines. The ingredients are all based on live yeasts and contain chelated organic minerals so they are all bioavailable to the horse so they get the maximum benefit from them. Due to product patents they do not have to give a breakdown of individual ingredients but that is why they have the FEI approval - its meets and exceeds their testing criteria for competiton.

There is live yeast cultures, vitamin B's, Selenium, zinc, copper, managanese, iron and cobalt. The mycosorb is a broad spectrum mycotoxin binder. All of the minerals and vitamins fall within the RDA amounts.
 
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Hi, thanks for that, most useful. My horse is currently on a course of Gastroguard, and Protexin Prosoothe (which was given to her by the vet).

I am hoping to put her back on an old supplement she had (relatively unknown called Aquacid), but when she was being fed this previously, she was much more happy around her digestive system.

When she was taken off this, she got far worse. However, due to the ingredients, there are certain things it cannot be fed with, like the prosoothe for example, as they have some similar ingredients in them.

However, the lifeforce does not look like it will interfere with the Aquacid.
 
Cheers... definatly something to think about.

Was hoping to get some advice from my vet... still waiting for them to ring me back.
 
slinkyunicorn said:
It is all about promoting a healthy and effective hind gut action. Once it starts working it improves the absorption of nutrients etc whihc is why I have been able to reduce the feed my boy has :) Has been my cheapest and least complicated winter when it comes to feeding :D
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This. This is what I have found with my TB.
 
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