Cheese grater bit ??

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Does anyone know the correct name for the above or have a picture. Info on why one would be used would also be good.

I am presuming that it is not the bit with a flat piece and spiky bits on the tongue - surely ???
 
You get hollow-mouth snaffles with holes through them which I suppose could look like cheese as opposed to a cheese-grater?! Will watch with interest.
 
ah that might be the thing - all I know is that it is straight and not jointed.

It is the everyday bit of a horse I have enquired about - which is perfect in everyway apart from the bitting arrangements. Owner tried to explain but I just presumed google would come up trumps - it hasn't!

Horse is shown in a swales pelham so I think that is why I am worrying about what this bit is!
 
Hmm, the one I am thinking of I have only seen as a single-joint. Sounds some serious bitting! Although would venture that Swales have got much more popular so might otherwise just have been shown in a double? Suppose you have to ride to see how it feels?
ETA- found a reference to one online but ebay listing it referred to is no longer available.
 
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I think what they may mean is a copper flute bit or sometimes refered to as an anti windsucking bit. Its a straight bar in copper or stainless steel and has holes in it like a cheese grater but its smooth not rough. Trainer suggested one of these for a young one I had who liked to draw back away from the bit.
 
loobylu said:
Suppose you have to ride to see how it feels?
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Don't really fancy riding anything with 1/2 a cheese grater in its mouth :D

He apparently does go in a double but preferrs one bit - so am prepared to forgive the swales as they do seem to be a fashionable choice at the moment.

Cant find a picture of copper flute either

Yee gods - what ever happened to just using a snaffle eh:confused:
 
Cheers LM - that looks a bit frightening.

Have now looked at possibly every bit available and have a sneaking suspicion the lady might have been referring to a chain link snaffle
 
No, a cheese grater bit is a fixed ring snaffle which literally is like a cheese grater on one side and flat on the other. Exactly what it says on the tin!

Used on a horse that runs blind through the bit - know someone who collects bits and who has one. Would imagine that they are prob illegal in most disciplines but would stop a tank I would think!

I suppose that it would teach a horse not to lean!
 
not a chain link snaffle in the nice way, a motor bike bit...:(

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Very old fashioned bit - I think there is a reference to it in Hartley-Edwards book on Saddlery. From memory, I think it is made of square links, but can't find book at the mo to confirm, rather unpleasant to use, I would imagine, but, if horse is incredibly strong.............
 
How do you all know how to find this instruments of torture - I lead a sheltered life in this regard:D

The lady said it was similar to a waterford and was often used as the bradoon part of a double.

Searched through the articles on H&H and found an article that covers a bit that says exactly what she was NS do one as does equiport - its not like the bit above is is basically a curb chain that goes in the mouth.

I can only hope that I am right and the poor horse does not have that chain saw in his mouth.

I can't see that if he goes fine in a swales at a show why you would put the above bit in a home surely you would just use the swales all the time ??
 
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Very old fashioned bit - I think there is a reference to it in Hartley-Edwards book on Saddlery. From memory, I think it is made of square links, but can't find book at the mo to confirm, rather unpleasant to use, I would imagine, but, if horse is incredibly strong.............
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Running up stairs to get said book :D
 
There is one in it called the magenis snaffle which has rollers set across the mouth within the mouth piece itself - says its a strong bit and is used for a horse who sets or crosses his jaw .

I do think its a bit like this, a chain or similar to the waterford I really can't see anyone putting a bike chain/hack saw type instrument in a decent horses mouth for every day use.

Think I will phone NS tomorrow and have a chat with her.

Thank you ladies (and gents if applicable:D) for your input it really has been appreciated.
 
One of my clients uses the bit in the picture above on her show hunter.Funnily enough she also use a Swales for showing. He did have a Sam Marsh for shows but got wise to that and would just lean and tank off.

The cheese-grater does look mean, but it can be used either way up. So you can use the 'kind' side and it is similar to a Waterford or you can be a bit meaner and use the sharp sire. The sharp surface feels very similar to the surface of you back teeth. (Yes I did use my finger to check!)

It is a useful schooling aid and we use it to freshen him up once he starts leaning on his usual schooling snaffle. I don't strap his mouth down tightly with the flash though when using this bit so he can open his mouth IF it really really hurts. Once he realises it its that bit he goes sweetly with his mouth closed and relaxed.
 
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