kerilli
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Advice/help please. Sorry, it's very long...
I have a 5 yr old homebred mare who as far as I know has never had any significant trauma. She's never been off the place. She has always had a really vicious buck out in the field, these appeared when she was about 2. She will do repeated snappy high bucks on the spot (like a buckaroo toy) as well as huge flybucks. She bucks in temper in the stable, if another horse (in adjoining field) looks at her when she's eating, etc.
I have had her treated by McTimoney Chiropractors, irregularly when she was a youngster (occasional check-ups) and regularly last year when she started work under saddle. She needed treating every 3 weeks because her pelvis kept moving but went nicely under saddle, was hacking out alone very happily, loved her work, jumping small jumps etc.
Then we had The Incident, when she somehow, for no apparent reason (and I still don't know how, one second I was fine and then on the floor) launched and ditched me last November and I dislocated my knee etc etc. This led to 6 months off for all of mine.
Got her going again and did a little bit with my (small, light) stable jockey, but tbh the horse was obviously not comfortable so I stopped this because I didn't want to risk anyone. rested, treated, lunged long and low, had excellent saddle totally reflocked, tried again...
had one day when she was happily walking and trotting around the arena for 30 mins, nicely swinging forward (but not asked into an outline) with stable jockey mark II, but then the next day the mare didn't even want to walk a circle under saddle...
I KNOW this mare, I am 100% convinced (as is my vet) this is a pain response, not her being a shirker. She snaps ears back, braces neck, and gives a tiny hop behind, lifts a hindleg. A warning that if pushed she will buck...
Have had her treated very regularly by McT Chiro, and also vet did painkilling injections into her back and hindquarter muscles a couple of weeks ago. this made a difference for about 1 day...
After talking to Chiro, I tried box resting her for the last 2 weeks so that her pelvis might stabilise and give her muscles time to adjust. She kicked the hell out of the walls, the door, tried to attack any horse that came in the stables, and then crowned it all by jumping out over a 4'3" door in the pitch dark. Great.
Mare has changes to near fore pedal bone - dropped slightly, tip has bent upwards - N.B. she has never had laminitis - and was very slightly lame on it but now she's shod she is sound. They may be to do with her breeding (Fleetwater Opp sire, I've been told some of his have this sort of thing) or to do with the diagonal, as her opposite hindleg is the problem area...
Current symptoms: cannot/won't stand square. stands with front and rear pairs of legs unevenly placed at all times.
snaps ears back and looks utterly miserable on the lunge (in cavesson only) at any pace other than walk. bends to the left all the time, including on the right rein. Picks up canter easily on both reins, but prefers right lead on right rein (offers it instead of trotting) in spite of being bent left like a banana...
if brought to a small circle, can easily bend right, cross hindlegs over, etc.
can easily do carrot stretches both ways.
has heat in right pelvis area.
Comes immediately to call, shoves head in headcollar, loves fuss, really wants to do stuff...
Argh.
I know that an MRI scan or similar is probably the next logical step but I cannot afford one at the moment. (She's not insured.)
I've heard good things about Chris Collis and team with this sort of thing... any comments? Other recommendations?
McT and vet suspect: Pelvis, Sacro-iliac area.
McT thinks her pelvic synthesis may be 'out', but it's too deep to adjust. Anyone have any experience of this?
Help, please. Anything.
Thankyou.
I have a 5 yr old homebred mare who as far as I know has never had any significant trauma. She's never been off the place. She has always had a really vicious buck out in the field, these appeared when she was about 2. She will do repeated snappy high bucks on the spot (like a buckaroo toy) as well as huge flybucks. She bucks in temper in the stable, if another horse (in adjoining field) looks at her when she's eating, etc.
I have had her treated by McTimoney Chiropractors, irregularly when she was a youngster (occasional check-ups) and regularly last year when she started work under saddle. She needed treating every 3 weeks because her pelvis kept moving but went nicely under saddle, was hacking out alone very happily, loved her work, jumping small jumps etc.
Then we had The Incident, when she somehow, for no apparent reason (and I still don't know how, one second I was fine and then on the floor) launched and ditched me last November and I dislocated my knee etc etc. This led to 6 months off for all of mine.
Got her going again and did a little bit with my (small, light) stable jockey, but tbh the horse was obviously not comfortable so I stopped this because I didn't want to risk anyone. rested, treated, lunged long and low, had excellent saddle totally reflocked, tried again...
had one day when she was happily walking and trotting around the arena for 30 mins, nicely swinging forward (but not asked into an outline) with stable jockey mark II, but then the next day the mare didn't even want to walk a circle under saddle...
I KNOW this mare, I am 100% convinced (as is my vet) this is a pain response, not her being a shirker. She snaps ears back, braces neck, and gives a tiny hop behind, lifts a hindleg. A warning that if pushed she will buck...
Have had her treated very regularly by McT Chiro, and also vet did painkilling injections into her back and hindquarter muscles a couple of weeks ago. this made a difference for about 1 day...
After talking to Chiro, I tried box resting her for the last 2 weeks so that her pelvis might stabilise and give her muscles time to adjust. She kicked the hell out of the walls, the door, tried to attack any horse that came in the stables, and then crowned it all by jumping out over a 4'3" door in the pitch dark. Great.
Mare has changes to near fore pedal bone - dropped slightly, tip has bent upwards - N.B. she has never had laminitis - and was very slightly lame on it but now she's shod she is sound. They may be to do with her breeding (Fleetwater Opp sire, I've been told some of his have this sort of thing) or to do with the diagonal, as her opposite hindleg is the problem area...
Current symptoms: cannot/won't stand square. stands with front and rear pairs of legs unevenly placed at all times.
snaps ears back and looks utterly miserable on the lunge (in cavesson only) at any pace other than walk. bends to the left all the time, including on the right rein. Picks up canter easily on both reins, but prefers right lead on right rein (offers it instead of trotting) in spite of being bent left like a banana...
if brought to a small circle, can easily bend right, cross hindlegs over, etc.
can easily do carrot stretches both ways.
has heat in right pelvis area.
Comes immediately to call, shoves head in headcollar, loves fuss, really wants to do stuff...
Argh.
I know that an MRI scan or similar is probably the next logical step but I cannot afford one at the moment. (She's not insured.)
I've heard good things about Chris Collis and team with this sort of thing... any comments? Other recommendations?
McT and vet suspect: Pelvis, Sacro-iliac area.
McT thinks her pelvic synthesis may be 'out', but it's too deep to adjust. Anyone have any experience of this?
Help, please. Anything.
Thankyou.
