Cobs - What would you do?

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Your at a local show, this lovely pony belongs to you (taken off google images), you have been in the M&M ridden, you now have a choice to enter in the ridden cob class, baring in mind its local show, so the class does not specify any particular cob, its just ridden cob (need not be hogged) your friend is taking her traditional type in and also your other friend is taking her Welsh section D in, would you not enter the class, having not read the previous post?

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I'm only asking this question as a follow up to the huge debate ''is a Highland a cob?'' some agree that they should not be classed as a cob, others say there are of cob type....others are not really bothered either way.

This is not to cause any conflict because everyone has a difference in opinon which was covered in the other post but I thought it would be interesting to see how many of you would or wouldn't enter this lovely chap in a cob class down at your local show for example, if he was yours and you were in the above situation.

Shils...just pretend just for a moment, it's not really true, you don't really own him
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It would depend, if the horse needed experience in the ring or to practise not doing a naughty habit (standing still) is our current favourite! Then Yes I would and have. Also if it was a points series and I had done well but needed to top up my points for the overall ridden or something then Yes I would again.
 
I see no problem entering as you have a welsh cob and as your breed name has the word cob in it I think that would be fine though you might not do so well as the traditional types.

A highland does not have the word cob in it breed title so I think not suitable and also they are not big enough to be classified as cob - I think cobs are 14.3-15.1.
 
Ok, apologies for my poor English and bad spelling everyone, I admit I am one of the worst offenders on HHO but I think we can just about make out what I'm asking.
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I would avoid showing all together...it just seems like a lot of heartache to me
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at least in showjumping you either go clear or you don't and points aren't deducted for not knowing if your horse is a cob type or not!
 
The pony in that photo looks like a lovely Highland. I'd stick to the right class for him, which is M&M. If you enter classes that are so widely classified as "anything cobby" you are heading for heartache.

With such a wide description the poor judge is onto a hiding to nothing.
 
It would depend. If it was the same ring and the same judge i wouldn't do it - kind of smacks of pothunting a bit - especially if already placed in the first class.

However at a very, very low key local show i might or ring practice but would clear it with the secretary first
 
Yeah I'd do the same actually, I'd enter purely because there is not a lot of other classes you could go in once you have done your M&M or ridden equitation etc but I wouldn't be offended if I didn't get placed because I'd expect the judge to go for non breed type which has not already been in a class specially for natives, all good practice and yes he/she is very nice indeed.

You do see a lot of M&M cobby types in cob classes, so it just goes to show that everyone has a different view on what you'd class as a cob when just speaking in general.

Suppose it's similar for WH classes again at local level, a lot of people would argue if M&M breeds or plain old cobs should be in that class and judged against what is a traditional looking working hunter type pony/horse.

The joys of showing.
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I put a hunter in a cob type class once just to get the 10 points I needed to win the ridden points championship. Didn't get placed but you got 10 points just for entering the class.

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I wouldn't unless I needed points or practice. The horse is clearly not a cob but recognisably a Highland. Yes, you do get Welsh cobs in cob classes but the clue is in the name
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Sometimes you get clipped Connemarra's, too, but M&Ms are not cobs, which are a type, they're a breed, which is why I wouldn't enter them in a cob class unless I showed them as a cob anyway.

Lovely looking horse, though
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As quiet rightly said yesterday a highland is not a cob and so therefore i wouldnt enter the cob class!
The welsh D is clearly a cob hence you see them in cob classes, however above local level you wouldnt generally see a true welsh d in a cob class!
Rather confusing but the anser is no, i'd stick to native classes and maybe condition equitation and gelding/mare classes
 
I wouldn't take a Highland into a cob class as it is not a cob, despite being 'chunky'. Plus a cob should really be over 14.3hh, which even at local level it will usually specify, and I don't think Highlands are that big (please correct me if I'm wrong!!).
 
Yes it's quit a grey area, I had a cob 14.1 (hogged) and he either won or was placed in every class he went in but was actually under height for the type he was shown as and didn't have enough bone, but qualified and was still placed higher in cob class with true maxi cobs in it (silly I know).

I do think for riding club shows they should specify in more detail what is and is not permitted in certain classes, having said that it gives a lot people who show for fun or want to practice, more opportunity to go in more classes which is a good thing.
 
The problem seems to occur when the judge doesn't know what is allowed in a particular class! But yes, definately all too often it is hard to figure out just what is allowed in a class... The one that always stumps me is 'riding horse'...
 
I keep threatening my young highland that if he keeps growing he will be hogged and trimmed and produced as a show cob
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If he manages to stay under 14.2 he'll be shown as a highland only. When we get to the stage of doing ridden classes locally for practice, he'll do tack and turnout, family pony etc but not ridden cob.
 
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Exactly
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, however I do feel for them having to judge a class with with such a mixture, which is why I they should state in more detail on the schedules to avoid a post that was posted last week was it (sorry I can't remember) but basically someone had said her pony/cob or what ever it was, was placed further down the line when one of the others who messed about/didn't do a good show was placed further up the line, turned out (if I remember rightly....apologies if I'm wrong who ever you were) that the pony/horse was not true the type therefore would not of been judged the same as the rest. People wouldn't be wasting there money, young children wouldn't end up getting disappointed and people wouldn't get mixed up on whats classed as cob...like a farrier.
 
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