Coincidence or ??

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Two horses owned by person A.
Each horse is ridden by person B and C regularly.
Both horses have the same saddler
Both horses have the same Physio
Both horses have a Professionals Choice SMX girth.

.. Both horses Pull faces and try to nip when being touched in the girth area and when being tacked up.

This can't be a coincidence?
- aim of changing saddler happens on 14th may. Had a second opinion on a back person and both are perfectly well. Does a girth change take place?!

Help.
 
Or perhaps B or C should be observed tacking up to make sure one or both of them are not of the "yank it up tight in one go" school or maybe a past rider, groom or indeed breaker was less than gentle or perhaps diet should be looked into to check for ulcers or other issues.

Or they might just be like that.
 
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Both riders are gentle on tacking up so I have no concerns there.
As far as I'm aware there was never any roughness from a previous life, both are on there second homes and previous to that were hardly ridden.

Funnily enough, one has ulcers :-) - going for second scoping next week so they may have gone, the other does not.
 
What were the horses like when first obtained, was the saddler who fitted their saddles before this owner the same as the current saddler?
 
Sorry, phone. Mine started grabbing things being girthed up after a saddler over flocked the saddle and casued considerable pain and discomfort. Hes so laid back it took six months to get a reaction. So it went on for some time.
After a lot of money and time pitting this right. Any saddle or back person etc would say he's fine, but hr still grabs objects when being furthest up.
Could a similar thing have happened? And now it is a habit?
 
One horse has always been known to be a little girthy as he had back problems when bought- now sorted but he clearly remembers them.

Second horse never showed any signs of pain or girthyness for around the first month of ownership- then it started.

Both horses came with no tack so was bought as new: both fitted with leather saddles from a master saddler (who has mixed reviews but is the only saddler in the area) and are checked every 6 months both saddles and back.
 
Afraid not. Both separate horses.
The one with back problems has been owned for about 5 years- i say 'back problems' he had a fall as a 3yo and fractured his pelvis. It was left unattended to for a year before he was sold on, new owner had Physio and vet every 3 months until he was as he is now- as level as he will ever be (and barely noticeable to the naked eye when watching him from behind)

Ulcer horse has been owned for 5 months, diagnosed within the 2nd month- scoping, meds,diet etc was put into place. Finished GG a week ago, goes for 2nd scoping next week. Only 5yo and only been in 'real' work for about 3 months.
 
So both horses have physical reasons why there might be a problem other than a poor saddler or poor physio.
 
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