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My old Clydesdale after eating her 2nd feed of the day, went over to a flat area, pawned the ground a few times then dropped to roll. Had a good roll then stood with her head hanging looking dozy. The suddenly walked off, found another place, pawned the ground and defecated with a groan.
Walk back to her hay hutch, pulled a few strands and then dropped her head again and looked dozy.
Never seen her roll after a feed.
Immediate panic started .... colic???

Hung around for 10 mins to see if any further developments but she stayed there and then took another mouthful of hay, dropped it and hung her head and cocked a hind leg.
I am thinking just totally stuffed what do you all think.?
She 17 next month, she has had a dental op 4 weeks ago, diastemas widened. She had lost huge amount of weight and I have been advised to feed 2 scoops of soaked fast fibre and 2 scoops of soaked D & H 16+ mix or pellets in two feeds per day. Ad lib hay and a slice of haylege if she wants it.
Never seen her so thin , worried now that there is more too it than just the teeth
Gosh they are a worry when they start to get older.
 
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I would not leave her without checking again this evening to ensure she is eating normally, I expect she is just full after such a big meal but as she has been getting this daily her behaviour is not normal and she should have really been watched until she did look her usual self, colic presents in so many different ways, sometimes the quiet ones are the most serious.

I am not sure whether she is getting 4 scoops of feed in one go or 2 x2 per day but it is a lot, fast fibre is a very low calorie feed so not really suitable for weight gain, 16+ mix is high in sugar and starch which may even out the FF but to my mind it is not a great diet for any horse, there are better options out there but this is probably not the time to be changing, if she has a touch of colic you need the vet, if she is ok I would cut down the quantity for the next few feeds and then look at better options you can gradually change to.
 
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2 feeds per day each with one scoop of FF and one of DH ! total 4 scoops. Was advised this by vet.
Also she has had this for weeks.
Twice daily
No symptoms before.
She is out in a field and its pitch dark so I hung around about 20 mins until she started back on the hay but it was much before she cocked her hind leg and went dozy.​
 
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Ah, ok, so if she was fed at 5.30 and you left her when it was dark that’s a good hour or so of monitoring her - by which time you were presumably happy all was ok.

I would most definitely be keeping a very watchful eye on her over the next several days.
 
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I guess I monitored half an hour as it was getting dark, after she cocked her leg and started to doze. But as I got into the car she pulled a bit of hay but couldn't be bothered to eat it. She did pooh after the roll
 
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The fast fibre was because she couldn't eat much hay the first week after the dental work. So it's a hay replacer, the DH as she needed something for weight gain.
She did did have ready mash extra. I have ordered Copra coolstance , getting bags tomorrow on the advice of my barefoot trimmer and also because it's a weight gain product that can be soaked . All her feeds are always soak and she has always had a large bucketful. Whether its speedibeet, micronised linseed and thunderbrooks chaff or what she is getting now. I wasn't allowed to feed any chaff as it get caught more easily in the diastema, where the gum is healing .
 
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Stormininateacup said:
2 feeds per day each with one scoop of FF and one of DH ! total 4 scoops. Was advised this by vet.
Also she has had this for weeks.
Twice daily
No symptoms before.
She is out in a field and its pitch dark so I hung around about 20 mins until she started back on the hay but it was much before she cocked her hind leg and went dozy.​
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The diet is rather odd, fast fibre is low calorie so not going to do much for her weight it is also low in sugar and starch 5% which is good for digestion but in contrast the 16+ is very high in starch 17% , they sort of balance each other, around 9% DE which is still fairly low for weight gain, as she needs weight on I would reassess the whole diet as it doesnt make much sense, vets are not qualified nutritionists and in my experience most have very limited experience in feeding and are often very out of date with what is available.

My oldie who was looking less than ideal has put weight on nice and steadily on a low sugar and starch diet, based on grassnuts with linseed for extra calories without making the feeds too big, he is just finishing a bag of ease and excel, low in starch at 8% and will then just stay on grassnuts and linseed as the grass is now coming through and I don't want too much on as we come into spring.
 
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I rushed back up to to the paddock and she was whizzing around like her normal self because her shetland pony companion had zipped under the fence and gone back into the main field with the other horses. So I put her back in the big field and she trotted off neighing.
But I was told to give the D & H by an equine nutritionist.
But tomorrow i will just feed the Fast fibre and hope the copra coolstance is delivered. Which I will introduce slowly
Thank you for making me nip back up there. She was more distressed by her friend leaving
 
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