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He's not Strawberry roan, so what colour is he? :D

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/clas...-george-162-strawberry-roan-age-6-442390.html

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Not the Roan gene at all - remember that the Roan gene gives a very specific result. Having white flecks throughout the coat doesn't always equal the true roan gene. :)
 
Red blagdon :)


Or chestnut sabino

The roaning is too widespread to be rabicano?/no (ra)coon tail
 
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Faracat said:
Not the Roan gene at all - remember that the Roan gene gives a very specific result. Having white flecks throughout the coat doesn't always equal the true roan gene. :)
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Sorry to divert slightly, but can I ask you a question regarding rabicano?
As I understand chestnuts express white more easily. If a sire was het. black with rabicano, put to a chestnut mare, producing a chestnut foal carrying rabicano, would it's expression be greater than in it's father? Or is expression governed by other factors.
Sorry that's a very convoluted way of asking!
 
Ester wins! :D

BW - I have never read that chestnuts express white more than blacks. I will look into that.

ETA - Ester, that is a good page.
 
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Dizzy socks said:
Umm...Bay Sabino?
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You know DS, I think that the base colour could actually be bay and not chestnut, it's just hard to see as the white covers the areas which would be black on a bay. Looking at how many Clydies are black based (coming to think of it, have I ever seen a chestnut based Clydie?) Bay sabino seems most likely.


On Ester's link it says this
More prevalent on chestnuts, there often seems to be something preventing the full impact of this particular gene on bays, but rest assured it is still there
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ETA ^ the quote is in reference to BW's question.
 
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I half wonder if he's black based. Hard to tell as can't see his mane (or lack of) clearly and obviously his legs and part of tail you can see are white. There's a little bay at the yard, similar to him and the shade of her coat is identical. His coat looks like bay, rather than chestnut- to me, anyway. ;) I'm often wrong in these situations but something is just screaming bay.


Someone needs to go and view him and report back. ;)

ETA: Beaten to it! Faracat, that's what I was thinking re the majority being bay. :)
 
When the points are covered it can be very difficult to tell the difference between bay (black + agouti) and chestnut bases due to the fact that bay (agouti) works by restricting the black pigment to the points, thus exposing the chestnut pigment on the rest of the horse.

This is where DNA tests are handy. ;)
 
^ I agree. Right, we just need someone to go buy him and then pay the £20 to get him tested. Simple, right? ;)

ETA: You lot post too quickly. Haha. That was to Faracat, re the testing.

Don't worry Ester, I confuse myself!
 
This is another good one. I have to admit, when I first looked at the photos, I thought two things.

1, is that a silver bay? Well I think that possibly there is a hint of darker legs in the lying down photo where they aren't covered by white.
2, can you get Welsh silver bays? I'm not sure that you can, sadly. So the 'darker points' must be a trick of the light.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/clas...yorkshire-north/malton/look-at-me-442350.html

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So silver bay seems to be out. What's in then?
 
My mares passport says roan and white ...... IMO she's strawberry roan in the batches a usual coloured is solid coloured and has pure white patches like an arch around her bum. White triangles on her leg , shoulder and neck . She has a chestnut face that roams out around where her blaze would be and a white star, she has a white and almost purple tail and ginger knees ;)

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Her mum is a blue roan ?!?!? Welsh d x welsh d/Bodmin moor her dad is a chestnut leopard spot Appaloosa , her roan almost look varnish in a good light and she's got spots in a dark chestnut around her bum and down her back legs and then some snow flake pattern across her back
 
I think the young chap is just a flaxen liver chestnut poss with sabino for the ticking I think I can see.

His sire.

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grandsire has ticking

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Frank's dad was a pretty similar colour though with a 'cleaner mane' Frank's is kind of flaxen but not.
 
That's very helpful Ester. The photo of the grandsire does look like he has Rabicano. the flecks are on the flanks and the tail looks to have raccoon marks at the top. If you look at the ad, you can enlarge the photos so you can see in more detail than the ones in my post. He also seems to have the flecks restricted to the flanks (although has a much smaller area of them than the grandsire). I do think he's chestnut based and he certainly has sabino. i think that it's sabino's 'gulastra' effect that had caused the white hairs in the mane and tail, which covers any raccoon marks that would confirm rabicano.

So a Chestnut sabino with gulastra plume and possibly rabicano.
 
What companies would people recommend for getting colour testing? I want to know exactly what my girl is as her mane and tail are every colour under the sun; and though she's chestnut she's got a lot of white hairs through her coat and they seem to be multiplying!
 
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