Colt overed his own mum.

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Iv brought a colt 7 month old foal from the Market and spoke to the seller before I took him on.
His dad is his full brother!!! I was quite shocked that a stud allowed this to happen tbh and the fact they chucked him though the sale ring.
So my question now is will he have any adverse effects from this? He's healthy enough.
His mum is 14.2hh and they sold his dad/brother as a yearling and he stood at 14hh when they sold him so what height could he make? He's very small at the mo.
Also he's not no balls at all, my other colt had little peas at this age, is this normal? I'm abit worried on that side off things tbh
 
It is impossible to say conditions will not arise in future, but if he is fit and well at the moment then he will probably be fine. Many pedigree dogs have similar bloodlines and not all of them are damaged.

It was probably a misalliance, and the stud didn't catch it in time. I wouldn't worry about his plums at this stage either, sometimes they take a bit longer to drop in some animals than others.

Best of luck with him :D
 
Sounds like a proper soap opera!!! I think he could well have genetic disorders and may well never breed as he could have inherited homozygosity or deletarious genes whic means his offspring will never survive. Lots of health defects acompany inbred individuals as is widely known...
 
How can his sire be his full brother? Full brother would have same dam and sire as your foal. Obviously his brother will have a different sire from your foal. He's three quarters related I would imagine.

Similar things happen in race horses.
 
I guess you mean his sire is his half brother? Unless the colt had time-travelling capabilities and was his own sire it would be impossible for him to be your foal's full brother :p

As long as he seems healthy I wouldn't worry too much, I just wouldn't recommend breeding from him!

Most colt's wouldn't cover their dams, I would presume he had been separated from her for quite sometime before returning to the herd for something like that to happen, are they sure a random colt didn't do some night time visiting?
 
When this happens deliberately its called Line Breeding and is often done with racehorses.

He is not likely to have problems - if you know the size of the grandparents then you will have a rough idea on the size of the youngsters.

He may be hiding his boy bits - they do that, catch him relaxed and you will probebly find them peeking out.
 
Thanks guys.
His mum was 14.2hh and his grandad was a pure perchen who stood 16.2hh. His dad, half brother than as some have said, I can't get my head around the " keeping it in the family lark" ;) was sold as a yearling and was 14.2hh when they sold him so would off thought he would off made 16hh??
My lad has had a poor start going by the state off his coat and the worms that came out was un real, all types and all sizes but he stands at around 12hh at the mo. Do you think he's just behind and will catch up now he's getting proper food and the spring grass next year? Or will his size be effected because off how he was made? He's a cutey though and well put together but would love him to make a decent height.
He won't be used for breeding as he's a real Heinz 57 !!!! Enough off them in the world.
 
tallyhohoho said:
Sounds like a proper soap opera!!! I think he could well have genetic disorders and may well never breed as he could have inherited homozygosity or deletarious genes whic means his offspring will never survive. Lots of health defects acompany inbred individuals as is widely known...
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Yewa?

If his mother is also his granddam, it means that only genes his mother carries are at a likelihood of being expressed, and as she sounds like a heinz 57 herself, I doubt she has many deleterious genes.

All inbreeding means is that the chances of resessive genes coming through is increased. Believe it or not, it doesn't create giant boogeymen, unless that's what the recessive genes are hiding!

Brother and Sister line breeding would increase the chances of genetic abnormalities as there are then two seperate genepools being crossed. Like I said, in this instance, brother to dam means only the mothers genes are being crossed back onto themselves.

I'm sure he'll be fine and perfectly capable of producing offspring, unless his father/brother was a donkey...
 
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