Colt Sarcoids

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Could someone explain to me about these ? Are they the same as Occult sarcoids ?
Can they be treated, especially inbetween hind legs.
I've heard of alternative treatments of Marmite and Camrosa cream as opposed to the more toxic Liverpool Cream
 
Sarcoids are cancer - don't mess about with home remedies, get your vet to look and send photos to Liverpool. There are other options than just the cream eg lasering. Do you mean occult sarcoids?
 
How old is the pony... If it is literally a colt, it could be juvenile sarcoids which generally present before 4 yrs and clear up themselves.
 
QB - I have always heard them called juvenile warts, so I didn't think that they were actually sarcoids. I've never had a horse with them though.
 
If they are the things in that article which are also known as grass warts, they are most commonly seen in young horses and usually seen around the muzzle. These warts are often not treated medically as young horses' immune systems can get rid of them without drugs. If they are true grass warts, they will only be like human warts, so not really painful, just unsightly!

If, however, your horse is not a juvenile, and they are between his hind legs, I might be tempted to get the vet out. The symptoms for grass warts are pretty distinct from sarcoids as they're so commonly around the muzzle. I think it's better safe than sorry, as if they were sarcoids and you let them spread, a little while down the line he could have quite a few more of them.
 
If they are the things in that article which are also known as grass warts, they are most commonly seen in young horses and usually seen around the muzzle. These warts are often not treated medically as young horses' immune systems can get rid of them without drugs. If they are true grass warts, they will only be like human warts, so not really painful, just unsightly!

If, however, your horse is not a juvenile, and they are between his hind legs, I might be tempted to get the vet out. The symptoms for grass warts are pretty distinct from sarcoids as they're so commonly around the muzzle. I think it's better safe than sorry, as if they were sarcoids and you let them spread, a little while down the line he could have quite a few more of them.

I completely agree with this but I did once buy a four year old whose sheath was covered in them. I assumed that he had been turned out with foals or calves with them looking to see if he could offer a milk bar. They went after two months. He also had sarcoids which didn't go, the warts and sarcoids were completely different.
 
Get your vet to check and don't be tempted to mess with them yourself is my advice.

My youngster had milk warts around his muzzle at 2 and they went. However at 4 he developed one sarcoid on his sheath which has now become around 30 sarcoids all over his body including his face and ear and we are running out of treatment options, having tried everything else (Liverpool cream 3 times, surgery and freezing, bloodroot, banding, homoeopathy, etc.). The younger the horse and the earlier the intervention, the better chance of success.

His mum had 3 sarcoids at the same age around her udder. We treated them with Liverpool cream once and they went and never came back. We lost her at 18 with a totally unrelated condition.
 
Hi OP

They are called cult sarcoids not colt :)
This is an interesting link to read from Liverpool hospital. https://www.liv.ac.uk/sarcoids/appearance/what/occult/

They shouldn't be treated with toothpaste or any other substance not intended for horses as there is a danger that they can become very aggressive with unsuitable treatment and they are a cancer. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/top-vet-warns-against-using-toothpaste-to-treat-sarcoids-403652
I must admit I used vitamin E cream in 1997 on my horses sarcoids and they did disappear, and he had another one cut off his throat with a scalpel by the vet, however he didn't live long enough to see if either sites and treatments resulted in them coming back.
 
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