Competion Horse Breeding

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When in a horses life do you think a horses breeding matters and at what point will it no longer have an influence on it's value?

I personally think if it is unbroken then it's breeding would be about 75% of its value but for me once it is doing something its breeding doesn't mean a lot especially if it is a gelding. Then if it is a mare and at the end of its career breeding might come into it again - along with her own competion record
 
I agree with you. Breeding is a nice bonus in a horse in work but at the end of the day, performance and way of going have to take priority
 
I tend to agree. Something with good breeding as a youngster would attract my attention but once it has done something then I am more interested by it's performance. I would never be put off at any age if something was unfashionably bred. As long as it has got basically good confirmation and the right attitude it is 95% there.

Saying that Sarnita has good Dutch lines and if anything happened to her she would make an excellent brood mare and put to the right stallion her off spring should be quite valuable with her breeding and competition history.
 
I would imagine Sarnita's babies would be worth a bit as she has proved herself.

Breeding to me doesn't matter, but saying that there is a certain stud whose horses I avoided like the plauge when I was looking
 
I would agree with whats said above. The Tourmaline Rose's 2yo and yearling are in last weeks H&H for £12k and £10k they'll keep that sort of value till they're 4 then if they're good go up with fab breeding and talent if not they'll go down or stay the same.

Its always nice to have one by a well known sire and if you're breeding them using a good sire will always make them more saleable but I think once they've proven (or not) that they can do a job thats what'll sell them. Although if they're a top horse by a top sire mare or gelding i would imagine you can ask more than if they're a top horse without that breeding.
 
I bought mine becasue of breeding/paces/apptitude/conformation as they were unbroken.
I thought these things were a good starter point!
they have top event breeding and and like Sarah Janes mare, my mare has proved her self having jumped around her first advanced age 7 and hoping to do a three star this year. I am hoping the fact she has good breeding and has proven her self will make her foals (one day!) more valuable.
 
Just out of interest S_J,hypothetically speaking, if you were going to breed from S now which stallion would you use for her if you had the pick of any Stallion?
 
Not sure to be honest - there is a nice Dutch horse standing in Devon now with the Bleekmans I think a bit more substance than S, not too big and good jumping lines. That would probably be a nice one for the first.
 
If I was ElleSJ i'd put her to Mill Law for eventing bloodlines but she's such a good SJ mare you could go that way as well.....!!
 
Your right, would quite like a mini me version of her! just something thats more polite in the dressage arena!
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I have never and will never buy a horse because of its breeding. In fact with Splodge and Porridge I was very happily suprised by their breeding, but that alone would not have made any difference in my decision to buy them - like I always like to say, Seb Coe's brother never made it as a runner, he had the same parents
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It must be a mare thing! although Headley Britannia behaves just superbly in the dressage arena! If only my mare could take a leaf out of her book!
 
No - 2yo by Caretino Glory so an SJ baby - we considered him for our mare a few years ago before she went to Russel (and didn't get in foal
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It's amazing how many people say they dont take any notice of breeding , yet go to look at horse and later; after they have decided they like it they are 'pleasantly suprised to see it s well bred'; is'nt that exactly the point? You recognise the quality in terms of type and conformation , it's not so much of an accident its the product of good genetics. The understanding of good proven bloodlines with strong type inprinting leads to the production of good quality horses with good conformation that enables them to do a job in sport. they do not have to be madly expensive ,i am not talking freakish horses here just good horses. To breed these horses ,to take the time to test them both interms of grading and in performance takes time = money. So they do cost more as youngsters but many go on to acheive good things in sport and then justify their value in the long term. But how can you put a value on the enjoyment that our horses give us especially those that we have a successful relationship with?
So breeding is imortant to me but i rarely exclude a horse just on its papers i am off to Germany again next week and the bloodlines have come into it because it will help me understand type , and temperament but it will be how the horse responds to me that will determine if i buy or not and how much i am prepard to pay.
 
Yes it is, you would have thought they would have used a more fashionable event stallion, say Mill Law or something.
 
I never thought about breeding before I started working for a competition breeder. But then I always bought cheap nags.
Now I would spend money on something with good breeding providing both parents are proven.
 
That is very interesting to read what people think on this. Maybe this attitiute (i.e. pedigree is nice but not that important) is the reason why there is no proper breeders (and breeding in whole) recognition in the UK. I agree with partoow when it comes to sports horse breeding.

IMO breeding is very important and yes, there are good horses without famous pedigrees but infamous genes don't mean bad genes. Of course there are horses with such heart that they go over their conformational problems etc; there also those that despite great parentage don't go anywhere. However, in the end of the day, breeding sound, healthy competition horses using proved parents seems so much more logical of a way forward.
 
I agree - breeding is very important and we dont rate it enough . We just hope that we might be lucky and breed a fluke Badminton winner and the chances these days are very remote. Breeding from sound proven stock is the way forward.
 
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