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This injury is now 1 week old. It is on the hind leg. Three injuries to the bone cuttting round to the inside of the leg. The field has been scoured since the injury was done and nothing found.
We have had a suggestion but wondered if anyone had seen a similar injury. How did it turn out? Did it heal? How long did it take? How did you care for it?
It happened in the evening two hours after i left. I would not normally have returned but thankfully i did. The vet was called imediately called.
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What has been suggested sickens me. I don't wish to jump to conclusions thow.
The pics have come up big and blurred, i hope you can make them out. The edges are clean cut but a chunk of flesh is missing.
Suggestions on how it could have been caused apreciated. All injuries are to the front going to the inside of the hind leg
 
I'm afraid the obvious conclusion is that it was a deliberate attack. I can't think what else would have make 3 almost parallel clean cuts.
 
It might be an idea to report it to both the police and your local horse watch group if you have one. Even if you are not 100% sure it was an attack. You never know what the police already know of if there has been something similar in the area.

I hope your horse makes a full recovery, my thoughts are with you.

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I only know of one horse who had similar injuries but this was due to it getting its leg stuck in a horse walker and the lacerations were not quite so deep but it did take months to heal. There's no possibility the horse could have got it's leg stuck on any fencing at all is there?

I do know of a horse that attempted to kick another horse through a fence too and staked itself and bled to death. They can do some god awful things to themselves, it's not necessarily an attack (i prefer to believe there's not that many awful people out there). Still the vet is going to have been the best person to hazard any type of guess as to what happened/what could have caused it. Hope the horse makes a good recovery.
 
I guess the first question to ask is, what sort of fencing do you have ?

My Mare likes to run her bum on things. Last year she came in with cuts to her vulva. It would be easy to say she has been attacked by some sort of pervert, but she managed to do this by reversing into a thorn bush. There was no real damage to her tail or bottom, but she had neat cuts that looked like someone had taken a razor to her.

This is a really nasty injury, I wish you luck in getting it healed.
 
I think we all have similar views on what appears to have caused this terrible injury to your horse. I would certainly report the incident. Hopefully word will get round to other horse owners to be extra vigilant.
 
Report it and get a crime reference number please, also email maggieslaw@googlemail.com or go to www.maggieslaw.co.uk, attacks are going unreported and when someone else in the area gets there horse attacked they are then coming to light. It does need to be investigated, please email details to maggieslaw they are compiling a database of horse attacks.
 
Have you any wire in the field or surrounds? Would a horse stand to receive another blow if it was inflicted by a human??? Personally I don't think so
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It is very hard to make out the type of injury from the pics, could you shrink them so they are not blurred or take some new close up ones in focus?

Whatever happened, poor horse and poor you, you must both be in shock!
 
Having not seen any knife attacks on horses, i cant comment, although three cuts of the same depth (or what i can see from pics) is very suspicious, i'd report to local horsewatch and police if thats necessery

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I reported it to the police last night. We got some awful information and evidence that some of them have been shot with an air rifle.
Its not the first time it has happened and the previouse owner of the field reported it to the police when his horse was shot - with him present! The police did nothing. The police last night said it may be an RSPCA matter. If it is what we have been told it is a police matter in my eyes.
We borrowed a field for our horses as we were supposed to be haveing a show on our field. We changed venues but had already moved the horses.
A not nice man lives next door to the field, well known to the police.
He told the new owner of the field if he puts a horse in the field he will put a shovel over its head. That was a year ago and they seemed to start getting along. The owner of the bungalow wants to buy some of the field thats why he started being nice.
Anyway we were told he would not do anything.
Last Tuesday we found Keiro with this injury. Until yesterday i was looking for how he did it.
I was lppking yesterday when the previous owner came by. He came to warn me about the man in the bungalow and said he will stroke the horses and then attack them with a shovel or hedger. I told him about Keiro and he came to look. He thinks its definately a hedger. It has been done with something sharp but i don't want to think it. A few other people have confirmed it and said he is like that.
The previouse owner also told us about his horses being shot. He said he waits for them to wander over near his bungalow and shoots them. Seamus has many pellet wounds and 5 others also have them. There are fresh pellet holes in the stable also. I wondered why they were getting small round wounds.
I still don't want to believe it but it is looking the most likely thing.
The photo's were taken yesterday and have actually healed a bit.
 
Oh my goodness, your poor horse, how is he coping? does he seem frightened at all, or his usual self (apart from the pain obviously).

I do hope your horse is going to be ok and makes a good recovery, it must be so frustrating for you not knowing exactly what caused this, I bet you cant think about anything else at he moment so it must be very upsetting for you.
 
Hi is copeing remarkebly well thankyou. He was perfect for the vet and still perfect to be treated.
He was born with us. His mum was given 1 week to live when we took her in but she died when Kiero was 3 months old. He loves people and is such a softy. I am devastated. I cannot look at his leg. My daughter treats him. His mate Seamus who brought him up from 3 months is very nervous now. He used to attach himself to people. He was looking after Kiero when we found him. Wouldn't let any of the horses near him. Seamus is very depressed at present and has many pellet wounds.
Kiero is the one in the pic with his nose in the grass.
 
This man is obviously a nutter and if it is known he does these things, I am not sure why the field is still being used for horses ?

However I cannot believe a horse would stand still and let someone hit their leg three times with a shovel ? I know my horses wouldn't. You said your vet believes the fencing is not intact, do you have stock fencing ? I would think stock wire fencing is a good candidate for this type of injury, where the horse put his leg through the wire, tried to pull out, trod back down again and cut himself several times before he could pull out.
 
I have seen an almost identical injury on a youngster that panicked and put a leg through a metal gate. There were people there to see it or we might have suspected other things as the gate came out unscathed.
Could the shooting, or someone wielding a weapon, or anything else, have panicked him into a gate?
Though to be honest, the specific cause is pretty much incidental listening to the bigger picture... wishing you luck and justice...
 
If your horses are being repeatedly shot, its a police matter as its misuse of a legal firearm.

Failing that go to the Sun or other newspaper and get them on the case.
 
i cannot believe the police have ignored this mans *potential but highly likely* actions, especially if he is known to them:(

i am so sorry you and your horses have had to go through this, i hope your horses leg heals soon x
 
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This man is obviously a nutter and if it is known he does these things, I am not sure why the field is still being used for horses ?

However I cannot believe a horse would stand still and let someone hit their leg three times with a shovel ? I know my horses wouldn't. You said your vet believes the fencing is not intact, do you have stock fencing ? I would think stock wire fencing is a good candidate for this type of injury, where the horse put his leg through the wire, tried to pull out, trod back down again and cut himself several times before he could pull out.

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All fencing was intact and there is no wire fenceing. The vet did not seem to think it could be fenceing.
Kiero would stand there and allow it. He does not move when haveing his leg dressed, injected etc He trusts people too much.
If we had known what we now know the horses would not have been in there.
Also the electric fencing energiser for the electric around the top of the fenceing was swithed off last week and broken this week.
 
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i cannot believe the police have ignored this mans *potential but highly likely* actions, especially if he is known to them:(

i am so sorry you and your horses have had to go through this, i hope your horses leg heals soon x

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The police are aparantly scared of him. They have to go in with full riot gear to arrest him. Nice things we were not told before.
He is 6'3" tall and 16 stone. An ex-prison officer who got kicked out for bullying and injurying prisoners.
I have only met him once, not a pleasant meeting. I knew about conastant fights with him and another man. He once lifted a roller and threw it at the other man. But i thought it was them.
I am so sick and furious with myself for putting the horses in that situation, although i had no idea.
 
Difficult to tell from the photos and the fact that it is a week old, but I'd say the horse had kicked out at something (may be just flies), then got it's leg stuck and pannicked. I would not have even considered foul play in this case.
 
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Jeez Vanessa all this sounds awful. Are the police not prepared to do anything? Can you move your horses back to where they were?

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Hi, i have moved them. I moved them as quick as possible. We thought it was an accident and kept looking. I put the stallion in there with a companion after thinking accidents happen and they cannot live in cotton wool. There was nothing to cause injury. It was only yesterday we found out about the shootings.
I am waiting for the police to contact me again. I won't let it drop. I just wish it was an accident but with the shootings and him telling people he was going to do it, it seems unlikely. We have two witnesses prepared to talk to the police. I wish i had been told earlier. He picked on the softest that would stand there and let anyone do anything to him.
I am holding it all in at present. I am so devasted i can't let it out. I feel physically sick.
 
I sincerely hope that the wounds aren't the result of an attack, but i wish you all the best in persuing it with the police/RSCPA. I hope keiro makes a quick and uncomplicated recovery.
 
Sorry just been reading your further information regarding this man, is there anyway you can move your horses asap? even to a livery for a while.
Its disgraceful that the police cant do anything further (but then again it may be frustrating for them too, they may also want this man out of harms way, but they are limited to what they can do...rights and the law an all).

Also why should you be bullied into removing your horses of the land by his sickening acts, either way, I'd just give in and move them as soon as possible, cant you contact a local horse rescue centre, local farmer or a livery yard where you can possibly move them to and keep them there for a wee while while you find somewhere else...surely someone must be able to help you, what if he strikes again?

You have got to move them, proof or no proof with or without the police involved.

Hope you sort something out, its terrible
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That's awful but don't beat yourself up. You obviously always do your best for your horses and you couldn't have forseen this.
It makes me sick how the police are scared of certain people... there's a farmer near us who is the same, a big nutter of a bloke who's been in prison for GBH. He terrorises and bullies all his neighbours and his cattle are always getting out onto a busy main road. He lives right on the border of 2 counties and the cowardly police from each side just bat him back and to as they are too gutless to deal with him properly. They are supposed to be there to protect us and our property from these type of people but it's easier to sit in lay-bys issuing speeding tickets isn't it?!!
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I hope your horse makes a recovery, but don't blame yourself.
 
Firstly I am so sorry about what happened - and yes I believe a horse would stand and take what happened - Cairo would have.

I can believe the police letting this man get away with his actions.

Could you not have a word with some of your gypsy contacts (the nice ones) to have a "discussion with him" and the consquences of anything happening to a horse in that field.
 
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