Covid/ isolation/ Livery

[Sandstone1]

How are people that test positive coping with isolating if they have a horse on livery? I ask as I know of people that are still going to care for their horses. Who is responsible? is it the yard owner for allowing it or the horse owner for continuing to go to yard? It really seems people are no longer taking covid very seriously.

 

[Season’s Bleatings]

I tested positive at the start of last week and have been isolating, we are very lucky that a friend has very kindly looked after our horse - otherwise he would have been put on full livery.

 

[saddlesore]

My yard owner has opened up a ‘Covid field’ with loads of grass. If owners test positive there horse moves there (if it needs the extra grass) and other liveries are feeding/haying and checking on them. Its a huge yard so checked several times a day.

 

[Dave's Mam]

My yard owner has opened up a ‘Covid field’ with loads of grass. If owners test positive there horse moves there (if it needs the extra grass) and other liveries are feeding/haying and checking on them. Its a huge yard so checked several times a day.

My yard has done the same. It's been a huge relief.

 

[Sandstone1]

I just find it incredibly selfish to continue going to a busy yard when you know you are positive. Yard owner also running a big risk.

 

[Dave's Mam]

I just find it incredibly selfish to continue going to a busy yard when you know you are positive. Yard owner also running a big risk.

I haven't been to my yard since I tested positive. Dave is with the other Corona Ponies.
I am now negative for 2 days, so he will return to normal tomorrow. I miss his furry wee face.

 

[maisie06]

I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.

 

[Gallop_Away]

I'm in Wales and the advise from the Welsh Assembly is to have a contingency plan in place should you need to self isolate such as a friend or yard owner who is not self isolating.
Where this is not possible then you are permitted to care for your animals yourself but try to limit how often you are required to see them and wash hands regularly etc.

"If you are self-isolating because you have symptoms of COVID-19 or have come into contact with someone who has, you should avoid contact with animals as much as possible. Try to arrange for someone else who is not self-isolating to care for your animals. If this is not possible, take extra care to wash your hands before and after handling your animals, and their produce."

 

[Equi]

If there is absolutely no one else then you can see to them, but on a livery im fairly sure there would be at least one person who could make sure your horse doesn't die for a week. So the YO is being a little lax and the liveries are being a little arrogant.

 

[Sandstone1]

I'm in Wales and the advise from the Welsh Assembly is to have a contingency plan in place should you need to self isolate such as a friend or yard owner who is not self isolating.
Where this is not possible then you are permitted to care for your animals yourself but try to limit how often you are required to see them and wash hands regularly etc.

"If you are self-isolating because you have symptoms of COVID-19 or have come into contact with someone who has, you should avoid contact with animals as much as possible. Try to arrange for someone else who is not self-isolating to care for your animals. If this is not possible, take extra care to wash your hands before and after handling your animals, and their produce."

I would be more worried about passing it on to other people, They may have old or ill people at home.

 

[Equi]

I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.

Yes and no. At the moment the omicron is definitely weaker but it is not about the amount of people getting it, its about the amount of people who will need to then take of work because you have to isolate. If there is no work force the country fails. And ill/infirm are still highly likely to have issues with it even if it is weaker.

 

[Sandstone1]

I think in this case the person does not want to pay for full livery for a week.

 

[AmyMay]

I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.

Of course we should learn to live with it. That doesn’t mean you swan around if you test positive.

You live your life, take your precautions and test if you are unwell. If you’re positive you isolate (obviously ??‍??‍) and exit quarantine when you no longer test positive.

Simples ?

 

[Zuzan]

I think there other thing to consider is the virus is zoonotic and very transmissible .. I would also be concerned about passing it on to my horse not just other people on the yard. In other words I would also be taking precautions for my horse.. wear a face mask .. a proper one ffp2 at least etc.

 

[magicmoments]

I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.

I'm afraid to say I'm coming to the same conclusion. I've done everything I can, triple jabbed, mask and sanitizing, lateral flow twice a week.

 

[SO1]

YO could get a massive fine for permitting someone she knows has tested positive on the yard as she is running a business she will be liable if any gets seriously ill or even worse pass away as a result of letting this happen.

If YO has staff she has a duty of care towards them and allowing this happen will be breaching this.

I appreciate not everyone will be able to able to pay for cover but I would expect a responsible YO to understand the risks that liveries may get Covid and ensuring that all liveries have a plan in place should they test positive in order to protect the other customers. There could be a rota to help each other with all those who can't afford to pay for help and have no friends or family to help expected to be part of the emergency cover to help each other out.

How are people that test positive coping with isolating if they have a horse on livery? I ask as I know of people that are still going to care for their horses. Who is responsible? is it the yard owner for allowing it or the horse owner for continuing to go to yard? It really seems people are no longer taking covid very seriously.

 

[Sandstone1]

YO could get a massive fine for permitting someone she knows has tested positive on the yard as she is running a business she will be liable if any gets seriously ill or even worse pass away as a result of letting this happen.

If YO has staff she has a duty of care towards them and allowing this happen will be breaching this.

I appreciate not everyone will be able to able to pay for cover but I would expect a responsible YO to understand the risks that liveries may get Covid and ensuring that all liveries have a plan in place should they test positive in order to protect the other customers. There could be a rota to help each other with all those who can't afford to pay for help and have no friends or family to help expected to be part of the emergency cover to help each other out.

Yes, I was pretty shocked that someone would be so selfish to be honest

 

[sjdress]

I can’t believe that someone would be so selfish to go to a yard when they have COVID, these last 18 months have just shown how selfish people are.
we‘ve all had long enough now to know we have to isolate if positive so we should all have plans in place.

 

[exracehorse]

Luckily I rent my own yard. But I did cancel anyone from riding with me. Visiting etc. I didn’t have covid but a family I clean for all went down with it the day after I was in their house. If I did catch covid .. I’d have to still sort mine out. Unless I felt awful and literally couldn’t get out of bed as I’m on my own. Then .. I’d have to beg anyone I knew to chuck some hay over the fences.

 

[Sossigpoker]

I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.

Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

 

[Sossigpoker]

Up to everyone individually , I guess strictly speaking if you can , you should get someone else to do your horse. But if you're outdoors and keeping a distance, I doubt there's much risk.

 

[AmyMay]

Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

IT IS NOT A COLD

JESUS!

 

[scats]

Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

But for some people, it’s not. That’s the problem. Some of us will be lucky and just feel like we have a cold… others won’t be that fortunate.

 

[bouncing_ball]

Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

You had covid symptoms recently, and didn’t test, and carried on going to a yard where others were?!?

You may have spread covid and caused other more responsible people to miss Christmas with their families through testing positive.

It’s unlikely to hospitalise healthy triple vaccinated people but that doesn’t mean elderly and clinically vulnerable people are safe, and are put at risk by their family contacts.

People can take own risk decisions but shouldn’t irresponsibly inflict them on others who can’t choose.

 

[bouncing_ball]

IT IS NOT A COLD

JESUS!

Quite! It’s asymptomatic for some, a variant of a bad cold for some, snd life changing or fatal for others.

 

[bouncing_ball]

But for some people, it’s not. That’s the problem. Some of us will be lucky and just feel like we have a cold… others won’t be that fortunate.

And the socially responsible thing to do is to test if have symptoms / think been at risk / before meet vulnerable people indoors.

 

[Sandstone1]

There is also a £1000 fine for not isolating when positive

 

[sjdress]

Wow, so many selfish people!!! Legally you have to isolate if you test positive , so you’d need to find someone or pay someone to look after your horses, Regardless if you have your own yard or not.
It might just be mild symptoms for some but for others it’s a death sentence and the right thing to do is think about the bigger picture and not just yourself.

 

[criso]

I am travelling back from Spain and have the yard on standby depending on how quickly my test results which will release me come through. Ym has kindly said I can let her know the day before and only charge me if I need the service.

Someone else on the yard was due to go skiing and when we were discussing the requirements, said she was going to come up anyway rather than pay for livery. As it turned out, her holiday was cancelled when France banned UK travellers saving me the dilemma of whether to say something.

 

[Sossigpoker]

You had covid symptoms recently, and didn’t test, and carried on going to a yard where others were?!?

You may have spread covid and caused other more responsible people to miss Christmas with their families through testing positive.

It’s unlikely to hospitalise healthy triple vaccinated people but that doesn’t mean elderly and clinically vulnerable people are safe, and are put at risk by their family contacts.

People can take own risk decisions but shouldn’t irresponsibly inflict them on others who can’t choose.

I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?