Current cheapest natural vitamin E please?

Equimins. You can buy it in bigger quantities from them but the discount isn't massive so I decided not to bother in case something happened to the container. If I was feeding more than one horse on it I may do.

If you work out the feeding rate pro earth is much more expensive. I've searched the country for cheaper but never beaten Equimins when you work it out.
 
I feed Progressive Earth Platinum Plus and it contains 2000 ius of vitamin e. Not sure if thats enough or the right type for you. Seems to suit mine though and I use it for the mineral balancing bits mainly, the vitamin e is just a bonus as he has such limited access to grass
 
FfionWinnie said:
Equimins. You can buy it in bigger quantities from them but the discount isn't massive so I decided not to bother in case something happened to the container. If I was feeding more than one horse on it I may do.

If you work out the feeding rate pro earth is much more expensive. I've searched the country for cheaper but never beaten Equimins when you work it out.
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I can't find it without selenium in it FW? I supplement a half dose of selenium as mine blood test with excess on a full dose.
 
Their natural vitamin e oil doesn't contain selenium. I don't feed selenium at all. It's sold in 1litre containers on their site or you can phone up for bigger sizes.
 
Jeez. 89 quid a litre? That's more than a pound a day per horse, just for 2000iu, surely?
 
I used to buy the natural Vit E/tocopherols from Holland & Barratt when they had a 3 for 2 offer. Seem to recall they did capsules in 500iu. It worked out cheaper than the equine supplement and I found it easy to plonk the 4 capsules in my horse's feed, but I guess you could pierce them and squeeze the contents over feed.
 
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Jeez. 89 quid a litre? That's more than a pound a day per horse, just for 2000iu, surely?
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1litre is 1000mls which is 500 2000iu servings (1ml-1000iu). I feed 5000iu per day so about two bottles a year.

Your 2000iu would cost 17p per day from Equimins. Holland and Barrett would be 80p per day based on their 1000iu capsules at full price and you would have to consider what the capsule was made of for a PSSM horse.
 
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I've just got a decision to make now whether it's worth paying extra not to have to syringe oil, and go for the easier powder option. I can feel an argument with myself coming on :D
 
I decant it into a little container and use a calpol or dentinox syringe. Make the hole bigger if necessary. Or you can suck it up into a huge syringe. Or you can use a tomato sauce bottle. I make the feed up at a sink with hot water so just wash the end of the syringe off.

I expect you'll come up with something even better. You're not going to pay extra are you :p
 
ycbm said:
I've just got a decision to make now whether it's worth paying extra not to have to syringe oil, and go for the easier powder option. I can feel an argument with myself coming on :D
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I lost :(

I'll do anything not to spend two pounds where one will do ....... but I went for the powder. That's one less curry house trip we'll have to have this year :D
 
Based on my thread in vet/hoofcare and the advice of you guys I have started the big lad on vitamin E. Just bought 1.5kg powder from somewhere called the Healthy Horse Co on ebay. It cost 40 quid and has 500iu per gram which seems not too bad...? Its natural rather than synthetic too.
 
I checked that one, but I can't see where it says its natural? If it's synthetic, it still works (I feed synthetic at the moment), but you need twice as much, which would explain why it's so cheap compared to Progressive Earth.
 
ycbm said:
I checked that one, but I can't see where it says its natural? If it's synthetic, it still works (I feed synthetic at the moment), but you need twice as much, which would explain why it's so cheap compared to Progressive Earth.
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it is very cheap. My problem is that I have 6 on the equimins one and I am seeing great results so expensive as it is I daren't change to something cheaper. For PSSM and PPID horses quality is the most important thing.
 
paddy555 said:
it is very cheap. My problem is that I have 6 on the equimins one and I am seeing great results so expensive as it is I daren't change to something cheaper. For PSSM and PPID horses quality is the most important thing.
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I'm lucky Paddy, mine are fine on synthetic, but when I tried to stop it altogether they let me know what a mistake I'd made!

I'm swapping to natural so I can feed less of it and just in case it's even better. Though what 'better' would feel like given what my lovely little mongrel was doing today, I'm not sure :)
 
Nudibranch said:
Based on my thread in vet/hoofcare and the advice of you guys I have started the big lad on vitamin E. Just bought 1.5kg powder from somewhere called the Healthy Horse Co on ebay. It cost 40 quid and has 500iu per gram which seems not too bad...? Its natural rather than synthetic too.
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Do you have a link please?
 
Progressive earth do two versions the RRR alpha - tocopherol which they say is natural and Alpha tocopherol acetate which I assume is not as it doesn't say it is. The Healthy horse one is De alfa tocopherol acetate and looking at it and the dosage and price I would say it''s the same as the non natural PE one.

PE can work out cheaper than the healthy horse one depending on what size you buy but their postage can get complex so it depends on that and if you are buying something else at the same time.


Still at least Progressive Earth have starting selling by the kilo and multiples of that rather than 900g, 1.8 kg etc, At one point I had a spreadsheet to compare prices of various minerals as some used multiples of 1kg, some went for 750g, then 1.5kg, and PE 900g, 1.8kg etc
 
Thank you. My understanding is that d-alpha tocopheryl is natural. dl or rrr prefixes denote synthetic.

Here is an article about it: http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Natural_vs_Synthetic_Vitamin_E.shtml

I haven't looked at PE but if criso is correct then it would make you wonder if there is some confusion by providers as to which is which!

If it works for your horse, great, if it doesn't, consider using Equimins instead. The price makes me a little suspicious as natural vitamin e is so flipping expensive.

I might give it a bash for my non PSSM horse but with my PSSM horse I wouldn't risk it as I'm also not sure what fillers there might be in it, does it mention anything other than silica carrier?

Micronised linseed makes my PSSM horse symptomatic so I don't feed it. I only feed coolstance copra and alfalfa pellets.
 
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FfionWinnie said:
Thank you. My understanding is that d-alpha tocopheryl is natural. dl or rrr prefixes denote synthetic.

Here is an article about it: http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Natural_vs_Synthetic_Vitamin_E.shtml

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Mentions D as being natural and DL as synthetic but doesn't mention RRR. However found a reference here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_E suggesting that RRR is natural.

Then to confuse matters the healthy horse one is prefixed DE - it wouldn't be the only typo I found.

Given that IMO both PE and Healthy horse are honest companies whose prices are similar across the range and good value for money; I think it's likely that they are the same product and the only natural one is the one that PE have recently starting selling which is significantly more expensive.
 
As I understand (looking at it from a chemical aspect) vitamin E is a chiral compound, so it can appear in 2 forms (dextro or levo), the naturally occurring version is dextro (hence the d- notation); the synthetic version is a raecemic mix of both dextro and levo forms (hence the dl- notation).

However since I learned chemistry at school there is a new notation system, and the d- form is now also denoted as R.

To complicate things, as vit E, has 3 sterioisometric centres (three points at which it can be either d or l) it is correctly denoted RRR (the equivalent would be ddd-) - this is the natural form. Anything with DL is synthetic/partly synthetic.

*with thanks to Wiki for new notations...
 
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