Cut and bleeding frog(also in Vet)

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Horse has a cut in frog down the side which is bleeding, I think hes done it on a flint, he also has slight thrush in this foot which hasnt helped. Ive washed and treated with hibiscrub and packed with cotton wool with sudocreme at the moment. I have stabled him but would hope not to have to keep him in as his friend has had to come in too and shes not keen ! Do I need to call the vet ? He doesnt appear lame. Would a hoof boot enable me to turn him out or make it worse because of the thrush. On vet as well but more people come on here so hope for quick answer ?
 

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I would do a hot poultice for 2 days then dry poultice until its healed... I would be worried about infection and also the fact that its bleeding but I would be inclined to only call the vet if he became lame. I would get rid of the sudocream out of it too as its a barrier cream but it works both ways so could hold infection in too.
 
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Thanks, got to track down a couple more poultices then ! Just run down my bedding in both stables as its summer, so some bales of shavings as well !
 

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One of my girls' frog fell off and bled everywhere once :eek: I put on purple spray and poulticed it for a couple of days until it stopped bleeding. Then the farrier had a look and said to stop poulticing cos that was keeping the bacteria in - particularly if yours has thrush (think that was the problem in my case too). It heals really quickly. Hoof boots wouldn't be a bad idea for turnout for a few days.
 

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if you put enough duct tape on it you should be able to turn out with it fine :) its better for them to be out in the field moving about to increase blood flow to their frogs to promote healing and also you don't want any bacteria from bedding getting in the wound. do a hot poultice today to draw anything out then do a dry one until it has scabbed over then hoof boot it for a few days :)
 

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I would do a hot poultice for 2 days then dry poultice until its healed... I would be worried about infection and also the fact that its bleeding but I would be inclined to only call the vet if he became lame. I would get rid of the sudocream out of it too as its a barrier cream but it works both ways so could hold infection in too.

Ditto above, had a blackthorn in my old girlies frog 2 weeks ago, hot poultice until gunk stops coming out, dry for another two then eycalyptus oil to harden it up. Wouldn't bother calling the vet - farrier for feet every time!

Animalintex - pack hoof with cotton wool - vetwrap sticky bandage - corner off a heavy duty feed bag - then tons and tons gaffer tape.

If its all four feet she'll look like a unicorn - minus the horn of course...:D
 

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My horse came in with a bleeding frog a couple of months ago. In her case the bulb of the hoof was also cut and it was absolutely gushing when she came in (she had been galloping around in the field so blood was pumping!) We had the vet, and he said poultice for a couple of days and then keep really clean. She also had an antibiotic shot.

I posted here asking about hoof boots, there are pics of her frog further down.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=593701

We ended up doing as recommended above - animalintex (at first then just gamgee), vet wrap, feed sack, gaffa tape. Also a big dollop of flammazine as recommeded by vet. I kept her in as fields were extremely muddy and then we had snow anyway, but I hacked around the roads every day and managed to keep it clean and it healed nicely in a couple of weeks :)
 
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Thanks all, have just been to get poultice etc, also shop recommended some stuff for puncture wounds in feet which is supposed to put a "skin" over the top! Not sure about that. A whole roll of duct tape and a heavy duty plastic bag. I will give odds on the
plastic bag etc not lasting the length of the path to the paddock ! Probably by the time I manage to get a hoof boot to fit him(extra large feet)it will have hopefully healed.
 

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Thanks all, have just been to get poultice etc, also shop recommended some stuff for puncture wounds in feet which is supposed to put a "skin" over the top! Not sure about that. A whole roll of duct tape and a heavy duty plastic bag. I will give odds on the
plastic bag etc not lasting the length of the path to the paddock ! Probably by the time I manage to get a hoof boot to fit him(extra large feet)it will have hopefully healed.


When poulticing, I always use duct tape then a heavy duty plastic bag - such as an wood pellet bedding bag. I changed it everyday and his hoof never went through the plastic
 

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Can you be sure that nothing has penetrated the frog? The very last thing you want is infection in the foot, I would ring the vet and ask his opinion. Is the horse covered for tetanus?
 
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Yup he is fully covered for flu and tet. I have poulticed and this morning lots of black yuck!
Knew foot was thrushy, been trying to get rid, no pus though
 

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Hiya, Maybe ask you farrier out, he will then cut away to expose the problem so you can treat it accordingly. I agree with OP earlier, anything designed to create a skin or film over a potential infection could be bad news. Hope he gets better soon.
 
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