dealing with the most spoilt homebred ever!

[justabob]

Some horses might just not get it doriangrey, like some people are bad 'uns. No amount of beating will change their minds. I think that discipline is not achieved by loss of temper. No one that respects a horse would resort to violence and to do so shows weakness and then more often than not you have a stand off situation. Even if the dominant person achieves submission from a dominant horse by violence it will not be long term, I would rather come to terms in a kind way.

 

[MrsMozart]

If you notice, there have been several posts which show that horses are significantly improved with the application of a little "tough love". There is a difference between giving a horse a timely whallop (whether administered in a temper or otherwise) and beating it: no one condones irrational punishment - quite apart from anything else it doesn't work. The horse in question seems to have been considerably improved through the medium of a swift kick up the backside.

This ^^

 

[MrsMozart]

How do I type this without sounding sycophantic .... I'd let Cortez and Goldenstar deal with my horses any day. I'm all for NH but sometimes I don't think horses have problems but they just want to be gits! Don't we all? I know, I know ... they don't think like us but I think they do in their own way. We want them to do something and they don't want to so we persuade them for want of a better word. Maybe horses resist just because they freaking well feel like it! Imo it's not always related to pain or fear there are just so many other emotions involved. How to explain - I guess I find it hard to understand that an animal that learns from physical punishment in its own environment doesn't get it.

And this ^^

 

[fatpiggy]

I hope it was your middle aged gelding & you didn't behave in that manner with someone else's horse (I'd still feel sorry for it if regardless of the owner) but, I'd be livid & disgusted to find a member of staff or fellow livery kicking a door so hard it made someone else's horse in it cower at the back of the stable.

If I were you OP, I'd get your boss to agree to pay for someone like Micheal Peace or a Kelly Marks RA whose experienced with difficult horses on the ground and has an abundance of tools in their tool box help you with her, before she harms you. It's much fairer on the horse than shouting or walloping it one.

Thankfully it wasn't my gelding - it would have learned its manners alot earlier if it had been. The owner couldn't be arsed to come and feed her own animal in the morning despite it being a DIY yard. I'd rather have a cribber next door than a door kicker as it is one of the most catchable vices there is and quite apart from the damage to the stable door and floor, it doesn't exactly do the animal's joints any good. The next day it was respectful, not frightened in any way so I would most definitely do exactly the same thing again.

 

[pip6]

We have a wonderful mannered but very dominant with horses mare. All our youngsters know her as mum or auntie. She is a brilliant herd leader and all the youngsters learn manners from her. She is fair, caring but her word in the herd is gospel, and they know they are horses.