Deep central sulcus??

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My horse has had thrush for the last few months, never had it before and although its not bad it has been near on impossible to shift!!
I have been treating with Hydrogen Peroxide daily for the last 2 weeks (already tried purple spray, salt & water mixed to a paste, hoof master, stockholm tar, nothing worked) the peroxide seems to have got rid of most of it, farrier came last week and said frog is 100% better and its virtually gone now.
Problem I have is the main issue is the central sulcus in each foot. They're scabby, smelly and just generally pretty gross :confused: One of them has dried out and is looking well on its way to going back to normal but the others dont seem to be improving. I tried putting the peroxide on every other day but the smell just came back, I am sure it is the sulcus as the rest of the foot/frog looks great! I dont want to keep using the peroxide daily as I am now treating the heel which is skin and I dont want to hurt her or irritate her.

Having looked online, Red horse Field paste or Hoof stuff have very good reviews on horses with these problems. So does anybody have any experience of these products, or any tips on what else I can do?
It is driving me mad now, I want to gone by the time winter sets in if possible as it will be even more difficult to get rid of it then!

Thanks in advance :)
 
blue spray from the vet is very good, its what we turn to when Footmaster spray fails for sheep with foot rot

I used Kevin Bacon stuff for minor thrush recently and the frogs of my pony's hooves look so much better for it
 
My horse has had thrush for the last few months, never had it before and although its not bad it has been near on impossible to shift!!

Consider looking at diet. My horse had deep central sulci for years, I tried every product you mentioned and nothing improved them. Started him on balanced minerals last February, and within 6 weeks all 4 feet were improved. Currently, frogs are best they've ever been and I barely even bother to pick them out now, after spraying, flossing, dusting etc. for years. And that's living out 24/7 year round. Sometimes the problem isn't something a topical treatment can fix (our issue was to do with low copper and zinc in the grazing, and very high iron levels).
 
I have a tb with a similair issue....have been treating him with red horse sole cleanse for a couple of weeks and it's worked wonders, can't recommend it enough!
 
She is on a barefoot low sugar/high fibre diet so I am not convinced it is the diet. The farrier thinks its where we had usch wet weather at the beginning of the year and then very war dry weather so suddenly that it dried from the outside in!

Tamsinkb... I did see the sole cleanse, but does it work when they are living out? As being a liquid surely it wouldnt stay on? That is why I wonder about the field paste/hoof stuff as I could pack out the gap?
 
Diet is the key normally. Mine all get a high copper/zinc/magnesium supplement - I use individual minerals as it is cheaper, but becoming lazier so my next order will be equimins metabalance. Others to use are prohoof from progressive earth or forage plus. My youngster still gets the odd bit of thrush around the central sulcus as he is not yet backed and doing no work. If I had the time to walk him out regularly then it would go. My 4 year old has no thrush at all because he does the miles and his feet are stimulated. His frogs are great. All mine are barefoot btw. It is more difficult in shod horses as the heels tend to be contracted and the frog isn't in contact the with ground so isn't working as it should be
 
I have exactly the same problem in 3 of my horses feet. have been treating with peroxide and hydrocare and it stopped being thrushy but then when the ground gets wet it comes back in the crack. Just bought some red horse hoof stuff to plug the gap up which I'm hoping will heal it for good! Was fiddly to get in the crack but seems to stay there once its in and has good reviews so we shall see!
 
Hydrogen peroxide used to be the fix-all with thrushy feet, but there are much better products available. Red Horse products tend to be very good. Hoof Stuff is good for this because you can stuff it up the gap, which I have found will always then gradually close up. http://www.equinepodiatrysupplies.co.uk/Red-Horse-Products/Hoof-Stuff
For a general thrush treatment, and for your problem once the cleft is not so deep, Silverfeet is brilliant. For a horse living out it's good because it's greasy so doesn't run away like a liquid. They claim it's having an effect 2 hours after application, and I can believe that.
http://www.viovet.co.uk/Non-Prescri...oa_network=g&gclid=CKWD0pi1jLoCFY7HtAod3nEAug
All this combined with getting the diet right of course.
 
I've replied in vet but what balancer/minerals are you feeding?

She has Topspec cool balancer, topspec cool condition cubes, speedi beet and topspec topchop, with glucosamine supplemnt for joints, Oestress and Linseed oil. As I say in the almost 4 years of having her she has never had thrush. She is barefoot, and worked on all types of ground. She was being hacked out 4/5 times a week up until yesterday where she will now be having 2 weeks off due to facilities/light.

I spoke to the farrier/vet about her feed being something to do with it and they both agree that they think it is more likely the fast weather change earlier on in the year.

xgemmax & Tinypony, I have read some great reviews on red horse products so I may have to invest in some!
 
Bactakill from your local animal feed stockists like farmway, you will find it in the cattle/sheep section, it is wonderful, 24hrs all gone, pyroxide used constantly will damage the healthy tissue, frogs are tissue and pyroxide should not be put on frogs. Feed a vitamin to make up for the copper and zinc imbalance, even though on a sugar free diet.
 
You would need the hoof stuff. Field paste is really good but doesn't really get and stay in the sulcus. The hoofstuff does. Takes some getting used to using but our big man was lame with trush last year and sulcus was deep and difficult to keep clean and dry. This stuff was amazing and with 8 weeks the sulcus was completely gone!!
 
I did see the sole cleanse, but does it work when they are living out? As being a liquid surely it wouldnt stay on? That is why I wonder about the field paste/hoof stuff as I could pack out the gap?

No sole cleanse does not stay on it s a fluent. The sole paint is slightly thicker and good for stabled horses, field past is great for shallow areas and to use once or twice a week in the winter to avoid trush. For healing and getting rid of the central sulcus go for the hoof stuff!!
 
Thank you everyone for the great replies! I have ordered some hoof stuff so I will hopefully be able to shift it all with that!
Putasocinit I will have a look into that supplement, thank you :)
 
Thank you everyone for the great replies! I have ordered some hoof stuff so I will hopefully be able to shift it all with that!
Putasocinit I will have a look into that supplement, thank you :)

If you use it as per instructions I think you'll be putting up a happy thread in a few weeks time.

I had mine on a very similar diet to yours, all based on Top Spec products. They are now on various quantities of Fast Fibre, Micronised Linseed and Pro Hoof, with a bit of low-alpha chaff for bulk and have never looked better. It might be worth a look at the contents of Pro Hoof and having a think about that. You just need to be careful what you add to it, might not be necessary.

My horses live out and Silverfeet has been a life saver. It isn't expensive so I'd recommend it to anyone to clear thrush and prevent it. The greasy consistency gives it a bit of an edge over most other products, I like it better than the Field Paste.

Hoof stuff is also useful for abscess holes, or bits of infection under "flaps" in the frog. Miracle stuff.

While we're at it, I know a lot of people are wary of rasping their own horse's hooves. But if you've got horses working barefoot a good sanding block is worth having. Giving the bevel on the hooves a good old rub round with that every now and then will help to stop chipping and splitting.
 
If you use it as per instructions I think you'll be putting up a happy thread in a few weeks time.

I had mine on a very similar diet to yours, all based on Top Spec products. They are now on various quantities of Fast Fibre, Micronised Linseed and Pro Hoof, with a bit of low-alpha chaff for bulk and have never looked better. It might be worth a look at the contents of Pro Hoof and having a think about that. You just need to be careful what you add to it, might not be necessary.

My horses live out and Silverfeet has been a life saver. It isn't expensive so I'd recommend it to anyone to clear thrush and prevent it. The greasy consistency gives it a bit of an edge over most other products, I like it better than the Field Paste.

Hoof stuff is also useful for abscess holes, or bits of infection under "flaps" in the frog. Miracle stuff.

While we're at it, I know a lot of people are wary of rasping their own horse's hooves. But if you've got horses working barefoot a good sanding block is worth having. Giving the bevel on the hooves a good old rub round with that every now and then will help to stop chipping and splitting.

Thanks for the reply. The topspec feed is something I had changed to a while back and am wary of changing as she is looking and feeling so well on it, but if the thrush persists I will most definitely look into a change to see if that makes any difference!
 
Thanks for the reply. The topspec feed is something I had changed to a while back and am wary of changing as she is looking and feeling so well on it, but if the thrush persists I will most definitely look into a change to see if that makes any difference!

Yep, I'd try the topical approach first. If you decide to change just have a think about how much of many branded product is fillers.
 
Thanks for the reply. The topspec feed is something I had changed to a while back and am wary of changing as she is looking and feeling so well on it, but if the thrush persists I will most definitely look into a change to see if that makes any difference!
I think this is a sensible approach. Recurrent thrush does appear to be linked to low dietary copper and zinc along with excess sugars so if it does recur I'd look at Tinypony's suggestion or an even higher spec one such as Forageplus.
 
WelshD, did you use the normal KB hoof dressing or is there a special thrush one that you use?

Just the normal one. Like the Silverfeet mentioned above its greasy so sticks around for a bit which is handy. I am applying it once a day and picking out the hooves twice a day with a thin hoof pick and cleaning them with a stiff brush - the difference is amazing
 
Definately diet first. You can also try a little syringe used for children's medicine and use that to properly irrigate into the cleft daily. The chemist gave me one (just don't say it's for a horse!). The hydrogen peroxide should work however its not a long term cure. I find the thrush creeps back when the grass increases in sugar.
 
Definately diet first. You can also try a little syringe used for children's medicine and use that to properly irrigate into the cleft daily. The chemist gave me one (just don't say it's for a horse!). The hydrogen peroxide should work however its not a long term cure. I find the thrush creeps back when the grass increases in sugar.

I have been using a childs syringe for the peroxide to really get it in deep which has worked very well but I think I have used it enough now as I dont want to start doing damage. Hopefully the hoof stuff arrives in a few days and we can get it all sorted!
 
I found NT dry to be very good for clearing up the thrush, but now I'm left with a clean foot but deep central sulcus too. So very interesting to read this posting. Where did you find the best place (cheapest) to buy the Hoof Stuff please baker190 as I think I might buy some of this too, as sounds good?
 
I found NT dry to be very good for clearing up the thrush, but now I'm left with a clean foot but deep central sulcus too. So very interesting to read this posting. Where did you find the best place (cheapest) to buy the Hoof Stuff please baker190 as I think I might buy some of this too, as sounds good?

I emailed Sam at Red horse and was really helpful with what I needed to buy. They suggested the hoof stuff and so I bought it off of the red horse website. Was £20 with postage!
 
I emailed Sam at Red horse and was really helpful with what I needed to buy. They suggested the hoof stuff and so I bought it off of the red horse website. Was £20 with postage!
That seems expensive postage it's around £14 a pot but is heavy in spite of it being a smallish pot. Sorry to tell you about the pot size. lol
 
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