Diet for hindgut ulcers

[dixie]

I've this weekend carried out the Succeed test on my gelding and its a positive for hind gut ulcers.
This isn't a surprise as he's been scoped and clear front gut (after omeprazole treatment, which quite frankly made him worse) and whilst 80% better he is still not so good at saddling and rugging up, so I knew not everything had cleared.

I'm just reviewing his diet before the vets come back to me with suggestions on treatment and would like to compare with other people.
As a background he is a laid back TB. Alfafa makes him bonkers, so I steer away from that. I have used Ron Fields powder supplement successfully which improved him enormously but not cured and as I say still not 100%.

Currently feeding - Thunderbrooks Herbal Chaff, Grass nuts, Oats, Sugar beet, Top Spec all in one balancer, Oil (currently Astrids Oil).
The oats are for energy and the balancer I like for its completeness and its Biotin for his feet.

What are others feeding for this type of horse ?

 

[Leo Walker]

pink mash, grass nuts and equimins for the one I had. Topspec isnt a great balancer and there are others far better. Astrids Oil is oat oil and shes been done twice by the ASA for false advertising. Youd be better off and it would be far cheaper to add a small amount of oat bran. Pink mash really is magic stuff though and was the key thing in getting mine right

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

You could try adding brewers yeast. My old vet recommended it to me for my mare. It is in many of the "ulcer supplements". I'd get rid of the sugar beet personally. None of mine get any form of sugar, just unmolassed chaff, grasx nuts and micronised linseed.

 

[paddy555]

for a horse with a similar problem due to PSSM I use copra, dengie grass nuts, salt, magox, equimins advanced complete, micro linseed and the most important item of all which is equishure, (a hind gut supplement)

I have found that sugar beet (both molassed and non molassed) may not be so good for these problems. I don't know why just that removing it can make a big difference for some horses.

 

[ycbm]

Aloe vera juice 25ml a day, £8 a litre, proven in tests to help heal ulcers.

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[deicinmerlyn]

I’d drop the TS Balancer ( a lot of ulcers horses dont do well on it) also the Astrids oil (complete waste of money imo) and Sugar Beet also not great for many horses with hundreds gut problems.
I found Copra worked well for my TB as well as the other products you’re feeding with a forage plus balancer and Protexin and or brewers Yeast.

 

[TPO]

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I dont know this feed so could be way off the mark but I'd assume as it is seaweed it will be high in iron. High iron feeds are generally not recommended for equines.

UK soil tends to be high in iron (& low in copper and zinc, high iron further inhibits the uptake of copper) so to feed a high iron foodstuff is counterintuitive and will also "unbalance" any balancer fed.

There were some papers about sugarbeet (even unmolassed) causing stress to the hindgut during the digestive process and therefore not recommended. I've no doubt that there will also be papers countering that!

Another vote for Pink Mash and I've also had success with Copra/Coolstance.

Forage Plus have a secondary website (Forage Talk) and there are some interesting articles about ulcers on it.

 

[Leo Walker]

Its iodine thats an issue with seaweed as well. Intersting that a first post is recommending a product with such enthusiasm, even knowing where the offices are...

 

[TPO]

Its iodine thats an issue with seaweed as well. Intersting that a first post is recommending a product with such enthusiasm, even knowing where the offices are...

Surely just a massive coincidence that Ocenfeed's CEO is named Graham and so is this new poster recommending Oceanfeed. Definitely wouldn't be any stealth marketing going on at all ?

 

[dixie]

Surely just a massive coincidence that Ocenfeed's CEO is named Graham and so is this new poster recommending Oceanfeed. Definitely wouldn't be any stealth marketing going on at all ?

Rooky error there!