Dilute sabino Anglo Arabians +16hh ...

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Do they exist at all over in the UK / Europe?

I was searching for a bay sabino Anglo Arabian for a client of mine, plus 16hh, 4 tall stockings and a blaze, nice Sport Horse type, and in short order I found that such a horse literally does not exist anywhere, at any price! (not that I could find anyhow ...)

So - I then got to talking to various well respected Anglo breeders and was told that if I CREATED such a youngster out of my Faux Finish TB mare (shown as a 2 year old):

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and now shown as a 4 year old she stands 17hh and looks like she should mature to the 17.1hh area when she is FINALLY done growing:

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and bred her to Khartoon Klassic:

http://www.khartoonkhlassic.com

The foal should inherit the markings, should hopefully top out at well over the 16hh mark and if it inherits the dilute buckskin colouring as well, it would literally be one of a kind out there!

So - for those of you that are "up" on Arabian and Anglo Arabian breeding - does all of this make sense to do?

I am hoping to do some ET breedings with her and will implant some embryo's and flush and freeze the others for future use and hopefully I will be able to breed her to 2-3 stallions per year over the next 3 years and have some awfully nice babies waiting in "the Hatchery" just waiting to be thawed and implanted ...
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I am looking at breeding her to the stallions Redwine, Balou du Rouet, Coleur Rubin and possibly Alligator Fontaine in the next 2-3 years and hopefully adding Khartoon Khlassic into the mix as well, for something completely different!

I'd love to hear your comments!
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Thanks everyone ...
 
I do have the first dilute Sabino Anglo-Arabian I think. It is a tall and leggy buttermilk buckskin filly by the Cremello TB The Alchemist and out of Mouammil's Dakila ox a bay Sabino Arabian purebred mare. The first dilute Anglo-Arabian to have full main book German Anglo-Arabian papers.
 
The problem you will always face is that whilst the inheritance of sabino might be straight forward the extent of sabino markings is not, which is why you can get sabino whites from two conservatively marked parents.

The extent of sabino markings range from very minimal, perhaps one sock and a blaze, through white legs and belly/ body patches to the all white sabino white. The extent of the white is goverened by white modifier genes which can be stored and not shown. It appears that if a horse shows a lot of white it has in effect "used" all it's modifiers and does not have many to pass on, hence a sabino white can produce a minimally marked offspring.

At some point with a certain mix of genes sabino mutates, probably initially into splashed white and then other "colour" genes, then the effect is more predictable but the modifiers still seem to govern the amount of white shown in those patterns.

So sabino to sabino might not get the desired effect. It is said that chestnut as a recessive is more likely to let more white show, perhaps that's why what you are searching for is rare. Good luck!!!
 
Bluewood stud have a cute chestnut sabino pure bred trakehner colt - he's got quite a large belly splash.

www.trakehners.co.uk

For sale, yearlings Heartbreaker.

I bred an arab mare, bay sabino to my little chestnut sabino stallion (a tersk, but essentially anglo arab), and got a bay filly that didn't have a white hair on her...
 
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