DIY - about right?

LankyDoodle

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I'm unsure about what 'the right price' for DIY is these days. We pay £13.50 a week at a yard with next to no facilities, owned by an old farmer who just likes to have people around. We have our own large field for our own horse/s, a storage area for up to 100 bales of hay/bedding, a large area in the feedroom and a tack area for each horse. The stables are on the smaller side at 10.5x10.5, and it's an American barn where stables face each other with a 6' walkway between them, so not much space there. People are nosey and tend to not be very knowledgeable really. Our nasty builder and his wife keep their mare there, although they rarely come to see it. There's a legal dispute going on and I am aware that now nights are drawing in and getting colder, they will come over more to do the horse.

I have looked at a few other yards. One was amazing but the minimum livery was part at £85 a week. The good thing about that was the hacking but we just couldn't do that for 2 horses! The one we looked at last night is one we found by chance. I phoned a yard I want to move to and he had no spaces, but his farmer friend is converting an old barn into AMAZING stables - large, light and airy. There is a lot of work going on, but they have said we can have the stables as soon as we want providing we can put up with having to move our stuff occasionally until they are all set up. They hadn't discussed price as they aren't advertising yet, so I said to them that they could get back to us. I know his wife as when I was a nanny, the kids I looked after went to her son's school.

The yard has lovely stables in a barn but they back onto each other rather than face each other. They are large, light, airy and dry. There is level, hard walk to good, well drained grazing and we can have a paddock for our own horse/s again if we want. They are building a school which they have planning for but, because the owners are farmers, they are harvesting at the moment so it won't be built for a couple of months yet (this is better than the horror we have now). There's a lockable tack space and a large room they are going to use as a rug store (I think it was a milking parlour before) so we can have our rug drier in there and hang boots etc. We mentioned feed space to them and they hadn't thought about it but we are going to be able to have space for a few feedbins, about 30 bales of hay/bedding and we can buy straw from the farmer if we need it, when we need it. They will not charge for use of the school and I have my own poles to take, plus rubber matting to take as well. They will do things for us if we are away for the day and they have 3 horses of their own, with another 9 stables free for other people to come along when it's all up and running. They are lovely people and the kids are really polite and helpful; our builder is not there!!!! It has really good hacking with off-roading close by and nice hacks round their 150 acre farm. There are water tanks in the fields which are post and rail and there are taps and electric points within reach of the stables. Lighting is very good and so is parking (right in front of stable block).

They came back with a price this afternoon of £25 per week which is 108.50 per month, per horse. I do have an extra large stable for our possible 2nd horse who is 17.2hh, so they have been very accommodating there. Is this reasonable in rural South West? I am not sure what other places in this area charge. Our current yard, like I said, is very poorly facilitated and very cheap. Our last yard was £16 a week (7 years ago) but ANY extras were charged - opening the stable door and putting the feed bucket in as they walked past our horse in the morning, was charged at £1, and as it was miles away we did used to have them do either morning or evening routine for us. 10 years ago, though, we did pay £20 a week for DIY at a very snooty DIY yard. Seems a bit hit and miss really.
 
£25 per week per horse sounds right on the money to be honest
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Sounds like a fab yard and I know you're getting desperate to move so if you can stretch to it then go for it!

Have you had any luck sorting the idiot builder out?
 
No
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We start to feel a bit beter and then things get a bit worse and then we feel better again. I just want it over with no
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He sub-contracted electrics and plumbing and the electrician is now pursuing us for the money he is owed even though our contract is not with him. The solicitor has told him politely to p off as we have paid an awful lot of the money to our builder already, which includes the scheduled payment for the electrics. Never mind. It's all character building... with any luck!
 
I pay £25 a week for the stables and fields. I have storage for about 50 (at a push) bales of hay and a lockable tack room. No school. I am also entirely responsible for the fields and fencing. There is no one around to help in any way!

Your deal sounds pretty good, but it all depends on how it is run IMO. Rules should be made and stuck to, so that everyone knows what is expected of them. I pay over the odds so that I am on my own and dont have to put up with other people!!!!
 
Thanks all.

The thing I like is that we are kind of their first clients so we can help them set the standard if that makes sense. It would be no use to us if there was nowhere to store hay and feed but they hadn't even thought about that; yet they HAD thought about a massive warehouse-sized area for rugs! So I said it to them and they said 'ooh yeh, ok you can put it in xyz for now and then when we are all set up you'll have a proper space', and it means we'll be able to store about 30 bales of whatever plus our 3 feed bins and our buckets etc. So long as I have that and space for saddle and tack box then I am happy. It would also severely p me off if they decided to not build the school because despite not having a school of sorts where we are now, a 5 minute hack and I can hire a school for £5 and then use their jumps and gallops afterwards. No such luxury in new place.
 
i pay £25 a week. and they make their own hay so sell it to us at a cheaper rate. and they buy straw in for us. we have a school and all horses have their own paddocks next to each other. we have large stables as the owners old horse was huge! if needed YO will do the horses for us! so i think £25 sounds good!! good luck x
 
I pay £40 a week. But I get amazing facilities. We get Hay or Hayledge included in the price aswell as full use of the cross country field, show jumping field, sand school and all weather dressage arena.
We have the option of hiring out the indoor or going onto part and full livery or having a turn out and bring in service (at extra cost).
Aswell as the fact that I don't need to travel to competitions because my yard holds SJ and Dressage and occasionaly XC during the year
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I pay £30 PW DIY but that's near London. Get a stable and daytime turnout only. There's a sand school but not a very good surface and a few jumps. YO lives on site and offers extras like turnout or bring in, mucking out etc but obviously charged on top. Have to buy own bedding, shavings now £7.40 (ouch!) hay £3 small bale. Nowhere really to store large amounts of hay or bedding so can't buy in bulk.
Sounds like you have a good deal and a nice yard, wish I lived there!!!
 
I would say that it is the right price for the yard with the school built. Do you know if they will put up the price once it is built, or be prepared to lower it to £20p.w. for now as you will have to box over and hire a school for lessons etc?
 
We run a DIY yard and charge £130 per calender month.
this includes: indoor stable with rubber matting, own area in feed room, saddle bridle rack and floor space in tack room, 3 racks in rug room, all year round turnout individual or with company, flood lit all weather menage with full sets of coloured and rustic fences, private access to national trust park land and we feed in the mornings.

we do charge extra for certain things - £1.50 for turnout in morning, £3per week for lorry parking.

so what you'd be paying sounds about right - just watch the costs don't go up as the facilities improve!
 
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