Do potters abattoir sell healthy horses?

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Hello, I'm desperate to rescue a horse from slaughter. So many fit and healthy horses are killed (one of the many reasons I hate racing). Does anyone know if, with a bit of negotiation, potters abattoir sell any of their healthy horse destined for the meat man on to new owners if the opportunity arises? I'm not sure how I'd go about it, but surely if they can avoid killing an animal and sell it for the and prove they bought it, or even more, then they would? Please excuse me if I sound like a dreamer, oh wait.. I am! But where would the world be today without dreamers? Who thought up the Internet? Phones? Any man made object we use today hahah!

Thank you for any replies!
 
I cant help on the how to find out bit, BUT you seem grossly mis informed about racing, however if you want a ex racer specifically then you have lots of options on finding one.
 
I'm not specifically looking for an ex racer, I'd just like to rescue a horse that is healthy and could have a good life ahead of it :) there have been reports of many perfectly fit horses being shot at potters and if I can make a difference to just one horses life, I'd like to :)
 
So, Potters provide a service, they do not ask questions about the health/behavioural status of the horse. All they need is the passport. The vast majority of animals sent there are sent for a reason, and by buying from the end point (although I don't think they would sell) you are probably just prolonging a potentially miserable life. If you 'rescued' something and things didn't work out what would you do with it? Hand/sell it on?
If you are desperate for an ex racer, contact racing yards, spend a bit more and buy something that could have a future rather than something that is broken in some way. But, never underestimate the needs of a racing bred tb, they are complex horses and not for anyone without bags of experience looking to make a quick buck,
Remember, there are worst things for an animal than being pts.
 
No, they don't.
About half the horses are privately owned and are brought in by their owners for immediate dispatch. I guess you vould try to intercept an already upset owner and offer to buy their horse who they have undoubtedly deliberated long and hard about taking but decided it is time. Personally, I'd have probably punched you (and I'm not a violent person!)
The rest are market ponies who are brought in and penned before dispatch. Most are wild, old, small or just plain unsuitable for riding. If you eant one of these, go to the sales and pay a fair price for it
 
No and rightly so. A few knackermen do though. I know one who picks up young foresters at the sales and keeps them a bit. He also ended up with 3 Welsh bs when some old lady died that were very good riding ponies. He used his contacts on them though not just someone random
 
Ask yourself a few questions.

Are you experienced enough to take on something physically fit it sound but possibly mentally broken and hugely dangerous? As slaughter house wouldn't know the history or be prepared to let you try something out

Why would you prioritise an animal from a slaughter house rather than "rescue" something from a charity?

Would you have somewhere to keep an unknown possibly broken down animal? Most livery yards would have you off at the first sign of trouble.

I doubt very much that any slaughter house would entertain the idea of selling on something they are legally required to dispose of. But although you clearly have the best intentions, perhaps you should look at more realistic options?

Good luck.
 
If really hope they don't sell no, if for whatever reason I sent a horse there to be pts there would be a reason behind the decision, regardless of other people's opinions.
Potters provide a professional service and I think it would be very unprofessional to sell on for more profit unknown to owners.
 
What is it with people thinking their doing a horse a favour when its got that far they are the lucky ones in many ways . They will not sell to you at any price anyhow as they would soon not have a business. People send horses there on a basis of trust knowing full well what will happen to their horses.

There are plenty need rescuing from the misguided fools who buy them further up the chain they are the ones who are really suffering.
 
these horses are at the end of the line and there is worse fate than PTS.

if you really want to do a good thing,adopt from a rescue...by doing this,you are making a space for another needy horse to be rescued.
 
go to a bin end auction (beeston, derby etc) and outbid the dealers/meatmen, there's probobly slightly less risk (although still a big risk) of ending up with something totally broken. There's usually a very good reason that horses are sent to slaughter and you can't know if they are healthy in mind and body just by looking at them. Imagine if you were an owner who sent your dangerous or sick horse to slaughter to prevent anyone else being harmed or to end it's suffering (granted they should PTS at home but not always possible I guess) and found out it has been sold on, how would you feel?
we have outbid the meatman on ponies at beeston in the past, paid pennies for them and one turned out to be a total mothers dream of a kids pony, the other one was beyond crazy and TBH probobly would have been better to go to slaughter in the first place!
 
The majority of horses sent to a place like Potters are sent there for a sound reason. To claim that "So many fit and healthy horses are killed" by that company without adequate proof is irresponsible & extremely damaging to a business that gives a service that many don't want to acknowledge.

I would be unlikely to use their service because any of my horses would be despatched before they leave my yard. Having said that if I did send a horse to them & later found that they had sold the horse on to someone who "wanted to rescue it" I would take court action against them. The horses sent to them are sent by their owners to be slaughtered/killed/euthanized however you want to call it. They are sent for a reason & the owners have entered into a contract with Potters & Potters should & will fulfill their part of the contract.

Blue Cross etc have numerous rescue horses that need homes, go there if you want to rescue a horse.
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
Hello, I'm desperate to rescue a horse from slaughter. So many fit and healthy horses are killed (one of the many reasons I hate racing). Does anyone know if, with a bit of negotiation, potters abattoir sell any of their healthy horse destined for the meat man on to new owners if the opportunity arises? I'm not sure how I'd go about it, but surely if they can avoid killing an animal and sell it for the and prove they bought it, or even more, then they would? Please excuse me if I sound like a dreamer, oh wait.. I am! But where would the world be today without dreamers? Who thought up the Internet? Phones? Any man made object we use today hahah!

Thank you for any replies!
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I might be totally misinformed here but I thought that any animal that entered an abbattoir in this country then had to be slaughtered, the case where sheep sometimes escaped from the halal slaughter house in Highgate had to be rounded up and sent straight back as it was 'the rule'. Not sure if I am right but think it may have been my ex that told me that (ashe was a slaughterman), but sure I have heard that from somewhere.

And they would be breaking the law anyway by doing so surely? The owner of the animal has requested their animal be slaughtered so they couldn't go against their wishes.
 
Peoples perspective makes me smile !!

To a lot of people the meat man is a horrible villain who puts your horse down and gives you money .

Wereas the mr nice guy vet does the same but robs you for it!!
 
A horse going to slaughter has a reason to go there.

I would also like to add that having seen footage of how Potters operates, the horse doesn't even know what is coming. Its all very stress free and quick. They are masters of their grim art. If my mare had to be PTS I would rather one of those guys did it than a vet with an injection.

Go onto Horses4Homes or rehome from a charity to give room for something else to be rescued if you are so desperate.

I don't understand the badge that people wear "I bought my horse from slaughter". Despite the fact that it is probably irreparibly damaged in some way, mentally or physically and you are probably prolonging a miserable existance. Its quality of life not quantity.
 
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No, they don't.
About half the horses are privately owned and are brought in by their owners for immediate dispatch. I guess you vould try to intercept an already upset owner and offer to buy their horse who they have undoubtedly deliberated long and hard about taking but decided it is time. Personally, I'd have probably punched you (and I'm not a violent person!)
The rest are market ponies who are brought in and penned before dispatch. Most are wild, old, small or just plain unsuitable for riding. If you eant one of these, go to the sales and pay a fair price for it
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This 100%

Worse things than pts
 
Didn't know people could be so rude. I know someone who took a horse to potters, and asked what was up with all the other horses going in, and was told that there was nothing wrong with them, they just had to be disposed of
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
Didn't know people could be so rude. I know someone who took a horse to potters, and asked what was up with all the other horses going in, and was told that there was nothing wrong with them, they just had to be disposed of
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I think this is an exaggeration. They couldn't discuss why the horses were in their abbatoir, or they shouldn't morally. I wouldn't be happy if they were telling all and sundry that my horse was there to be shot because of X.

If you want a "rescue" then get one from a reputable charity so that they can have space for another horse to be rescued.

TBH if we as a society PTS more we wouldn't have the crisis we do now with far to many animals for the homes available. Let alone "saving" animals from other countries. Don't even get me started on that.

DISCLAIMER: Now I am not hard hearted, I love animals, but we have to be pragmatic to the problem at hand.
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
By people being rude, I meant the ones saying it must be half term and that I'd probably gone off to buy a unicorn?
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They suspect you of being a Troll. This is due to a number of factors.

1) Very few/no posts.
2) We do get alot of bored kids Trolling during half term.
3) Your first post on the forum is over an incredibly provocative subject, i.e buying a horse from a slaughter house due to desperation of wanting to rescue one.
4) The unicorn thing, well, see the post "Feeding a Unicorn" in this section of the board.
 
I have only ever sent one horse to slaughter, it was a pony bought from beeston as suitable for a child. after unloading it we found it had been drugged!
When it tried to kill everyone, rearing, biting, both hind legs flying we (my mother, sister and I) sent it to a professional (we are not inexperienced, having had a combined 90 years of horse owning, training and breaking as well as Rehabbing horses) who specialised in dangerous, difficult horses. She sent it back 3 weeks later after it put 4 of her staff in hospital, one with life changing injuries. The vet couldnt get near it for investigations.
So we sent it to slaughter as we would get a bit of the money spent on this horse back and be able to spend it rescuing anouther horse.

It went for slaughter for a damn good reason and I would sue any abattoir who sold it on and any purchaser would have a good case for sueing the abattoir when they got injured (it was a case of when, not if).

Any reputable abattoir will not sell on horses that are taken to them for slaughter.

if you are set on rescuing take your chance at beeston or similar auctions by outbidding the meat man, you may end up with a reasonable horse you may end up with a monster like the one we bought
 
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