Do you know Sandpiper II *Not stolen* Info wanted

[Oldenburg]

I know this is a long shot but there is no harm in asking!! :0)

I know that he was produced by Anna Edwards and the sold to Andy brake and was then sold onto somebody Ireland, and was there for 3 years I have just brought him 2 months ago for Alex Bratt (of Elitesportshorse) and she was selling him on the behalf of someone! I would just like to get in touch with his owners in Ireland and find out what he has done over there for 3 years!!

Basics I know

Name-Piper / Caoimhe Irish name
Height- 16.3
Chestnut
Breed IDxArab
12/13 yo
Show jumper and is a Grade A

 

[dieseldog]

It was Martin Brake, not Andy Brake that used to own him. He was a really good horse when Anna had him and came 2nd I think in the young riders at Olympia. Martin had him advertised at very little money when he sold him.

He's on the Irish Show jumping site - although he seems to have lost all his winnings - unless they can be reset to zero. His owners names are on there too.

 

[Oldenburg]

Hey been in contact with Anna and she said that she deffo sold him to Andy!! He did a couple of 1.30s on him!!! I own him now and just wanted some info on him i got him very cheap he is as mad as a box of frogs!!

i will have a look many thanks Gemma

 

[dieseldog]

If you click on this link the chestnut in the 2nd picture is Sandpiper

http://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/1006

 

[siennamum]

I remember seeing him doing BE. Only one outing but perfectly respectable:

http://www.britisheventing.com/asp-net/Events/Results.aspx?RiderId=54491

 

[LEC]

He evented in 2005. Did a PN at Urchinwood with Anna. Went double clear. Do not think he had ever done a dressage test before!

 

[siennamum]

haha snap!! We were both in that section - that's all I'm going to say.... It's all been downhill for me since then though!!

 

[oofadoofa]

I would question whether he'd been in Ireland for 3 years after Andy had him. Here are results from 2006 with Martin riding him.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/results/405/91083.html

Martin and Andy are cousins and therefore most likely Martin got him straight from Andy.

 

[Oldenburg]

If you click on this link the chestnut in the 2nd picture is Sandpiper

http://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/1006

well i never lol

Thank you everyone who has replyed back!! I am just trying to establish what has gone so wrong with him!!

 

[tinker88]

this horse hasnt last firday been to york horse sales!!! why has such a talented horse been there!

 

[Cuffey]

this horse hasnt last firday been to york horse sales!!! why has such a talented horse been there!

Catalogue entry may partly explain:

The Property of A Lady NO VAT
SANDPIPER AES
Chestnut gelding 16.2hh 13 yrs
Sire: Exander
Its The Business Equalizer
Dam: Almerer
Uniek H. Frigga
Sandpiper is a Grade A showjumper having won £4780 being well placed up
to 1.30m. He is a very competitive horse that is NOT a novice ride as he is
an experienced showjumper that has always had strong riders (if he can get
away with it he will put in a buck /rear. Piper is a total gent to deal with in and
out of the stable and loves human company; only for sale as the owner is
overstocked and their main interest is breeding (so if he was a mare he
would not be for sale). His BSJA registration has just run out (last week) and
videos of him jumping can be seen on Youtube. This horse has exchanged
hands for vast amounts of money in the past and is still a young horse

 

[Oldenburg]

tinker88 I am mortified to learn this!!

I am stitting here sobbing!! Poor pickel ;(

 

[siennamum]

How awful. Horrible for any horse, but bizarre with a horse that good.

 

[Oldenburg]

All is not as is seems with him he has real big problems sadly!!

 

[pigsmight:)]

Hope he is going to be ok, what is the problem with him, im just interested as i was suprised to see such a lovely horse on the York horse sales catalouge
All the best x

 

[Elsbells]

Is he just burnt out?

My SJ mare was burnt out and had also been bullied at lots of different yards in an attempt to get her going again. As a consiquence she turned quite nutty. Sad, but not unheard of.

She's fine now though.

 

[Oldenburg]

Is he just burnt out?

My SJ mare was burnt out and had also been bullied at lots of different yards in an attempt to get her going again. As a consiquence she turned quite nutty. Sad, but not unheard of.

She's fine now though.

Sadly he is more than just burnt out!! Just to add i have not had him since november last year and he was for sale for 9 months not being ridden while at dearlers yard!! As in her words "she could not do anything with him" as he was unridable!! He is sadly in pain and very fed up!!

 

[dawn m]

just to let you know this horse went through york sales again today and was not sold.

 

[Cuffey]

just to let you know this horse went through york sales again today and was not sold.

Could you tell us what lot number/who the seller was please--I cant see Sandpiper named in Results

 

[missparis]

Cuffey - from York Sales site:

74 The Property of A Lady NO VAT

SANDPIPER AES

Chestnut gelding 16.2hh 13 yrs

Sire: Exander

Its The Business Equalizer

Dam: Almerer

Uniek H. Frigga

Sandpiper is a Grade A showjumper having won £4780 being well placed up to 1.30m. He is a very competitive horse that is NOT a novice ride as he is an experienced showjumper that has always had strong riders (if he can get away with it he will put in a buck /rear. Piper is a total gent to deal with in and out of the stable and loves human company; only for sale as the owner is overstocked and their main interest is breeding (so if he was a mare he would not be for sale). His BSJA registration has just run out (last week) and videos of him jumping can be seen on Youtube. This horse has exchanged hands for vast amounts of money in the past and is still a young horse.

Would love to know who the current owner is now.. Any clues?

 

[dawn m]

there you go. thanks mp

 

[Cuffey]

there you go. thanks mp

Dawn
Lot 74 yesterday was called Faith a grey mare

The details of Sandpiper above are from sale on 27.05.11 seller ''A Lady''

 

[dawn m]

oops really sorry, just logged on yesterday to see sale results and these were the ones that came up so i wrongly assumed they were the current ones. wonder why they havent updated yet?

 

[dingle12]

So do you not have this horse now?

If he had the problems your saying he had why did you let him go? sadly he will prob keep going to the sales.

 

[Oldenburg]

Dingle12

I do not owned Piper and have not since the start of november 2010

I paid alot of money for him and alot of lies where told and i brought him to showjump (if you had the chance to send a horse back that was not right you would its was heart breaking ) and he was not happy doing this so sent him back to the dearler i had him off. Who said she was keeping him as she owns his full sister!! He was bad when i had him but he has got worse over the time she has had him sadly. My mom spoke to said person before all of this happened and he said his daughter could not do anything with him as he was so bad. I have tried to trace him but cant!! I feel awful enough without being asked why i sent him back!! These dearlers have caused me a years worth of hell and its still not over !!

Sorry if i sound nasty but i did nothing but care and love Piper while he was with me and i feel truly awful about whats happened but there is nothing i can do now!!

 

[dingle12]

I would keep a eye out at york sales you will prob find him there next time if your wanting him back. When you say bad what is wrong with him PM me if you want.

 

[Oldenburg27]

I am Oldenburg But some kind soul hacked my last account!!
I finally found him with a lovley lady who treated him like a king :0)

But sadly Piper was PTS because of his issues and he was not enjoying his retierment!!

Now i know he will never have to go to another sale again ever and he is happy and he will never be made to do something he was not happy with my poor boy!!


R.I.P Pickle

 

[dingle12]

At least he is in no pain now. What was wrong with him you never said x

 

[guapauna]

Hi Oldenburg I am about to start court proceedings with Elite Sport Horses and Alex Bratt can you provide me more information about your experience? Thanks

 

[Clare85]

Just a word of advice - if you are beginning court proceedings against this person, it's probably best not to post any details on a public forum as it could harm your case. It may be worth asking admin to delete your post.

I hope your issues get resolved