Do you know this Standard Bred - Ben - Not Stolen

[Lakesidelil]

Hoping I can find a bit of a clue as to who this chap is below. He has a standard passport as a previous owner lost his original one, but I fear that his name may well have changed.

Here's what I know about him. He's been with current owners for four months and before that he was with another lady in Kidderminster (who had his original passport, but had to have another one issued, but not a duplicate). He was advertised on Horse Hunter approx four months ago. He has supposedly hunted to, but not sure if it's the Kidderminster area.

The horse himself is shown as a seven year old bay gelding. He is around the 16.2 to 17hh mark. He has no white markings at all and no scarring. He does have a deep indent in his neck on the near side. His breed shows as standard bred and with the name Ben.

I really just want to find out all I can about him so if anyone recognises him or used to own him then I'd be really happy to hear from you. I will supply better photos shortly, but this is all I have for now.

 

[fatpiggy]

All the standardbreds I know are gypsy trotting horses. That may be a direction for you to explore.

 

[dieseldog]

I had a horse which had a deep indent in his neck and we put it down to being tethered - which would link in to him being a gypsy type horse

 

[Lakesidelil]

Hhhmm thanks guys. I'm hoping to get hold of previous owner details tomorrow.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

NOTall standard breds are gypsy trotting horses! we're in a big trotting area here and although they originated from the gyps, now some are very valuable and worth thousands, and its not the gyps that own them anymore, there are big irish studs and in America too.

 

[Lakesidelil]

My main concern is that the horse has two passports out on him.....................unless the previous owner to the lady I'm speaking to was telling porkies.

The indent in his neck is quiet low down so not sure it's a sign of a chip being dug out.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

the deep indentation on his neck is common on many horses.it used to be considered a sign of good breeding and was called"St Peters thumb mark", highly unlikely to be the result of a chip removal.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

if Ben has raced under rules then he will have his special passport. we have an ex trotter withhis racing passport but had to acquire a new one for him as the racing one cannot be passed on in writing, even though we do have our horses original, it is null and void if you see what i mean!

 

[Lakesidelil]

Thanks Salimali, so once he was sold on from trotting then he would have required a new passport?

I'd love to know his racing name to see what he's done and to understand his background. I'm hoping that my Vet can run a scanner over him on Friday when she's out to chip my foals.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

all trotters that have raced under rules have to be microchipped, that is the ruling now anyway. how old is this chap? yes, if hes out of trotting now he should have a new passport.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

try and find out more, if i can help i will.

 

[Lakesidelil]

I've been told that he's seven years old.

I'm keeping everything crossed that the Vet will find a chip or that one of the previous owners will be really helpful and give me some more info.

 

[Doris68]

I thought that this "thumb-mark" was on Arab horses and was (allegedly) the mark of the prophet Mohammed???

If it's on an Irish horse then it's Paddy's thumb mark...!!! Ha Ha!

 

[Lakesidelil]

Doesn't your thumb fit preferctly into a Prohets thumb? This dent fits my rolled up fist in..................could be wrong though.

 

[brighthair]

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I thought that this "thumb-mark" was on Arab horses and was (allegedly) the mark of the prophet Mohammed???

If it's on an Irish horse then it's Paddy's thumb mark...!!! Ha Ha!

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I had a horse with 2 prophets thumb prints, both quite large, about 50p size

and he was Irish

 

[Lakesidelil]

Well the only other bit of information I've managed to gain is that the owner I've just collected from bought this horse four months ago from a lady who kept him just off the Bridgenorth Road, Kidderminster.................I have nothing else to go on now except if my Vet finds a chip tomorrow.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

no, this mark is not necessarily on arabs(owning one myself) i have seen it more on thoroughbreds and HIS stallions. if you want to take the poverbial then do so, i'm only going by my past experiences!

 

[DunRoamin]

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the deep indentation on his neck is common on many horses.it used to be considered a sign of good breeding and was called"St Peters thumb mark", highly unlikely to be the result of a chip removal.

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Do you mean a Prospero's thumb mark?? i also have heard good things about horses that have them,