Do you read feed labels?

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I have posted this in here, as well as in Stable Yard, as a lot of the feeding queries appear in this forum as well, and I thought it would be helpful for people who are trying to assess different feeds:

I wonder how many of your read the labels on your horse's feeds? If you have a minute I would suggest you do as you can learn a lot from it and it can be very helpful as well if you are contemplating switching to a different feed.

First thing to check is the list of ingredients - some feeds make a big play of being 'oat-free' or 'barley-free' which can lead consumers to believe that they are free of all cereals, which is often not the case. If you want to ensure that a feed is really cereal-free, because your horse reacts to cereals in some way, then look out for the following on the ingredients list:

Barley
Oats
Wheat
Maize

Maize is one of the starchiest cereals, which means it has the tendency to fizz up susceptible horses, but is still included in a 'calming' condition feed that is marketed as 'barley and oat-free'!

You may see ingredients such as oatfeed and wheatfeed listed and wonder whether they are also cereals. They are actually the fibrous husk of the oat/wheat seeds and so contain very little or none of the starchy centre, so are often found in feeds like high fibre cubes.

High Fibre Cubes are a popular feed these days and one would assume they are cereal-free, which is generally the case. However, I have noticed that one manufacturer has rebranded their 'economy cubes' as 'high fibre cubes' and the feed actually contains micronised wheat, so is not cereal-free. It is a good feed and I use it myself sometimes, but I just feel the name is misleading for those who assume it could be an equivalent swap for something like Spiller's High Fibre Cubes which are cereal-free and Laminitis Trust approved.

Another important thing to check on the label is the digestible energy content - this is, in effect, the 'calorie count' of the feed, and is usually expressed as mega joules of digestible energy per kilogram - MJDE/kg.

What I would call 'diet foods' usually have around 8-9 MJDE/kg - things like HiFi Lite, Happy Hoof etc, whereas conditioning feeds tend to supply about 12 MJDE/kg. High fat supplements are even higher in calories - Bailey's Outshine is 24 MJDE/kg, for example. This is particularly useful information if your horse is a poor doer and has a small appetite - you may find it easier to get them to eat small feeds which are calorie dense, rather than larger feeds with a lower calorie level.

So get reading your feed labels to find out what your horse is really eating!
 
This is an excellent topic. I think the majority of people have no real idea what they are feeding and get very confused about the whole subject. Feeding horses is very fashion based. People feed what everyone else on the yard feeds, and I think people waste a huge amount of money on feed.

Yes, I do read the labels, but then I also read the labels on food I buy for myself. I buy as little processed food as I can, partly because I like to cook from scratch, but also because I like to know what I am eating.
 
excellent poast TGM.
When i found my mare had a wheat allergy i started looking at the ingredients of supplements etc as I wanted to feed her an all round vitamin - most of them have by products of wheat in them.
I gave up in the end trying to find her something as there was nothing available in the feed merchant.
I ended up turning to simple system and she has done so well on it - so definite all cereal free there
 
We always make sure ours are all certified by the vegetarian society (allen and page feeds) - I don't want to feed a herbivore any animal derivatives
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We don't weigh ours, but know whats in it, and they keep their condition/energy levels etc where we want them pretty much, so can't be doing too much wrong. They probably get fed too much actually, and we could be spending a lots less money on them!
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Our yard still feed straight so yes know exactly what were feeding. I know its not the norm but has always worked very well with ours.
 
Very interesting...I feed Baileys No4.....just realised it is based on micronised wheat so when I thought i was feeding mainly fibre, in fact I am feeding cereals!! OMG...not good...my lad goes demented on mixes, so i thought i was doing good to avoid cereals, apparantly not...
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So...

Can anybody recommend a high FIBRE/oil based cube for my veteran and youngster?
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if you dont want to feed cereals why dont you look at simple systems - all grass, no cereal. has done wonders for my youngster and my old girl before i had her PTS
 
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Can anybody recommend a high FIBRE/oil based cube for my veteran and youngster?
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[/ QUOTE ] I've not tried them myself, but my friend has been having good results with Dodson & Horrell ERS Pellets. They are designed for horses that are prone to tying-up, but are low in starch (7%) and high in fibre and oil - she uses them to keep condition on cereal-intolerant horses, rather than specifically for ERS horses.

Might be worth contacting D&H to see if they would be suitable for your horses.

Alternatively, you could feed something like Alfa A Oil with a vit/min supplement, or various combinations of beet/grass/alfafa/oil, either via Simple Systems or using what is available in your local feed merchants.
 
I can definitely say I do...one bag says rolled oats and contains oats that have been rolled, the other bag says barley that contains barley that has been bruised and the last back says dried grass it contains grass (unmolassed) that has, by some wonder of science, been dried!
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I don't do supplements or feed balancers, personally I have never seen any results that warrant the price tag.
 
Another vote for Simple System....Yes I know exactly what I am feeding my boy

What amazes me is that most of these feeds which are meant for the Laminitis prone pony - The SECOND HIGHEST ingredient is mollasses!!
 
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What amazes me is that most of these feeds which are meant for the Laminitis prone pony - The SECOND HIGHEST ingredient is mollasses!!

[/ QUOTE ] Any feed approved by the Laminitis Trust will have a strictly controlled amount of soluble carbohydrates. Some approved feeds will contain some molasses to aid palatibility, but the total amount of sugar in the feed will actually be quite low.

Also, just because molasses is the second highest ingredient on the list, doesn't necessarily mean that a feed is high in sugar. Look at a product like Alfa A Lite - molasses extract is second on the list of ingredients, but that is because the product is almost totally alfafa not because there is tons of sugar in it!
 
This thread has me a bit confused now... can anyone clarify what conditioning feeds there are out there WITHOUT any cereal? I use alfa-oil but need something more.
 
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This thread has me a bit confused now... can anyone clarify what conditioning feeds there are out there WITHOUT any cereal? I use alfa-oil but need something more.

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Here are a few suggestions:

Saracen Equijewel 15 MJDE/kg
Dodson & Horrell ERS Pellets 13.5 MJDE/kg
Spillers Response Slow Release Cubes 11 MJDE/kg
Top Spec Cool Condition Cubes 12.5 MJDE/kg
Winergy Condition 12.4 MJDE/kg
 
I read labels obsessively because I have to be quite careful what I feed one of mine. I also ring up manufacturers for advice if I have any questions.
 
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This thread has me a bit confused now... can anyone clarify what conditioning feeds there are out there WITHOUT any cereal? I use alfa-oil but need something more.

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Here are a few suggestions:

Saracen Equijewel 15 MJDE/kg
Dodson & Horrell ERS Pellets 13.5 MJDE/kg
Spillers Response Slow Release Cubes 11 MJDE/kg
Top Spec Cool Condition Cubes 12.5 MJDE/kg
Winergy Condition 12.4 MJDE/kg

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Thanks....thats great...been looking on websites and TBH they don't always clarify do they? Cheeky monkeys ...tut tut tut
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It's so annoying when manufacturers don't have the ingredients on their websites - I have resorted to going round the feed shop reading all the labels now as that seems to be the only way to find out in some cases!
 
thanks TGM thats really helpful. I think I'm going to go back to the Winergy one except I have to drive for an hour to get it!!
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I read labels and weigh all my hard feeds and hay before feeding!

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I read labels and weigh all my hard feeds and hay before feeding!

<<<< Glows with saintlyness >>>>

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me too.

I am also going to join you in the glowiness!!
 
Because I am a geek, I thought people might be interested in how cost effective the various cereal-free conditioning feeds are. Obviously prices vary from retailer to retailer, so I have taken the prices from just one retailer to try and make it fair, assuming if a retailer is cheap for one product, it will be for all. It is difficult to make a like for like comparison, as two of the feeds are unsupplemented, so you should really allow for the cost of a vit/min supplement or balancer as well in those cases. The prices given is how much it will cost you to feed 10 MJDE (horsey calories) to the horse using that feed:

Unsupplemented feeds
Saracen Equijewel 15 MJDE/kg - 94p for 10MJDE
Top Spec Cool Condition Cubes 12.5 MJDE/kg - 44p for 10 MJDE

Supplemented feeds
Dodson & Horrell ERS Pellets 13.5 MJDE/kg - 52p for 10 MJDE
Spillers Response Slow Release Cubes 11 MJDE/kg - 40p for 10 MJDE
Winergy Condition 12.4 MJDE/kg - 64p for 10 MJDE

I must say I was pretty shocked at the price of the Equijewel - especially as it is not fully supplemented.
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Another useful unsupplemented non-cereal feed is unmolassed beet, as it contains 12.4 MJDE/kg (unsoaked weight) and combines particularly well with alfafa products. Feeding 10 MJDE from Speedibeet will cost you 37p, if you can get hold of pelleted unmolassed beet that usually works out even cheaper!
 
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