Do you think brussel sprouts help sarcoids

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I was watching embarrising bodies the other week and they were saying how eating brussel sprouts prevent cancer in humans....

I have just brought a horse and he has a few scarcoids on his sheaf and wanted to do everything i can to help him get rid of them. As sarcoids are a form of cancer and brussels help in humans thought it may in horses???

http://www.naturalnews.com/025297_cancer_sprouts_body.html
 
I have just read a thread that said toothpaste helps?? he has a pimple type one and the others are flat like warts. What type did you have?
 
Clair 008
He had a large nodular one , I could not believe how well the toothpaste worked, they use it a lot in America on vets advice, my vet is very interested in this now!
Sarcoids are such a pain , what works for one might not work for another and that goes for liverpool cream it does not always work!
 
claire008 said:
I have just read a thread that said toothpaste helps?? he has a pimple type one and the others are flat like warts. What type did you have?
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I think it has to be Crest toothpaste, it's the only one as far as I know with the right ingredient in it. Not used it myself, I leave my horse's sarcoids alone for the most part, although I'm currently using thuja on a couple of small ones. Not convinced anything is happening though.
 
Beausmate said:
I think it has to be Crest toothpaste, it's the only one as far as I know with the right ingredient in it. Not used it myself, I leave my horse's sarcoids alone for the most part, although I'm currently using thuja on a couple of small ones. Not convinced anything is happening though.
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Yes, crest original is what I used, I had previously tried thuja, it did nothing for mine, but others have had good results with it!
 
I wouldn't feed brussel sprouts or any other brassica to horses. They are very gassy plants; the last thing you want to put inside a horse's tummy!

I have seen a number of posts re using Crest toothpaste for sarcoids but have no experience of it myself.
 
ok well i will try the crest toothpaste and see if that helps, Ive used that thaja cream and tablets for a month and nothing has happened.
 
Clair008
My horse,s one was on his sheath high up so rubbing on the inside of his hind leg, I protected his leg and area surrounding the sarcoid with sudocreme, only putting toothpaste on the actual sarcoid, put it on twice a day, no washing off in between, it took two weeks, this was on a nasty nodular sarcoid the size of a plum!
 
Yes it was nasty, quite raw in places so I think when I put the fist application on it probably stung a little, but after that he didn,t care at all and he is a drama queen T.B So you should be fine with it on the burst one, at the end of the day it is toothpaste that we put in our mouths even when we have sore mouth ulcers!
 
vitamin e cream is meant to help, it did with my horse. But I think it was more action of the rubbing of the cream onto the sarcoid than the actual cream itself.
 
claire008 said:
ok well i will try the crest toothpaste and see if that helps, Ive used that thaja cream and tablets for a month and nothing has happened.
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Have you tried tying a bat wing to your head then dancing naked round an ash tree during a full moon whilst chanting 'Brown girl in the ring' ?
Don't know whether it would do much for the sarcoids but it would be pretty funny - and to be honest it's likely to be as effective as brussels sprouts / toothpaste/ vitamin E cream.
Do your horse a favour & seek veterinary advice re sarcoids.
 
Keflavik said:
Have you tried tying a bat wing to your head then dancing naked round an ash tree during a full moon whilst chanting 'Brown girl in the ring' ?
Don't know whether it would do much for the sarcoids but it would be pretty funny - and to be honest it's likely to be as effective as brussels sprouts / toothpaste/ vitamin E cream.
Do your horse a favour & seek veterinary advice re sarcoids.
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Have to say I agree with this: same thing with "natural" wormers basically - people try all sorts of gunk instead of doing the sensible/proper thing and doing the job properly.
 
Can't comment about sprouts or anything else, we are about to try bloodroot ointment (from the vet, costing £54 a tub) on one of our horses.

The vets are involved but after a failed BCG (horse rubbed off the main body of the sarcoid before the drugs arrived, leaving behind a flat area not suitable for injecting) Liverpool were stumped, in the meantime we tried Thuja (nothing to lose, the vets were aware of us trying this) and put her on Sarc-ex as it's an immunity boosting supplement, her bigger one just fell off after shriveling up and the one on her eye socket is looking equally shriveled but not fallen off just yet.

Bloodroot should be here Monday but we will keep her on the Thuja and Sarc-ex as they seem to be helping.
 
I used Hilton Herbs Ditton cream on my boys sarcoids. Not sure if they still make it. His were only small rather than the big lumpy kind though but it definately worked as they dissappeared after a few weeks.
 
Keflavic, thank god, some sense in all this twaddle. Eating brussel sprouts does NOT cure or prevent cancer. If it did, there would be no cancer in the world. All we can do is eat and act healthily and HOPE we don't develop cancer. TRUE (the most important word in relation to sarcoids) sarcoids are a form of skin cancer. You don't want to mess with true sarcoids because sometimes the very action of interfering with them will cause an aggressive growth spurt. But many, many, many, many lumps and pimples and spots and iffy patches are NOT true sarcoids, they are just lumps and pimples and spots and iffy patches and will resolve on their own in time. So when owners slap brussel sprouts, toothpaste, oven cleaner, bacon rind or bat wings on these non-sarcoids, they clear up because they were going to anyway, not because of what was applied.
 
I had the success with crest on a large sarcoid recently so I wanted to share it but if anyone cares to google this they will see that american vets tell their clients to try it, my vet is now very interested!
 
Liverpool cream is not guaranteed to eliminate sarcoids. Sometimes it works very well and sometimes it has little effect.

One of my horses had a sarcoid on his neck last year, I tried putting Marmite on it a couple of times (tie me to a tree and flog me) and the sarcoid shrivelled up and dropped off, never to return.
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Eating brussel sprouts does NOT cure or prevent cancer.
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The following organisations have done research on brussel sprouts and their effect on cancer cells -

American Institute for Cancer Research
The World Cancer Research Fund
The UK Lymphona Association
Researchers at the University of Warwick
Researchers at Liverpool University

The scientific findings of all of these very well respected establishments are that brussel sprouts do prevent or halt the progression of some cancers.
 
maggiemoto said:
I wouldn't feed brussel sprouts or any other brassica to horses. They are very gassy plants; the last thing you want to put inside a horse's tummy!

I have seen a number of posts re using Crest toothpaste for sarcoids but have no experience of it myself.
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This ^^

I got Liverpool cream, worked brilliantly. Sadly, one sarcoid is back but not irritating so is being left currently
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Keflavic, thank god, some sense in all this twaddle. Eating brussel sprouts does NOT cure or prevent cancer. If it did, there would be no cancer in the world. All we can do is eat and act healthily and HOPE we don't develop cancer. TRUE (the most important word in relation to sarcoids) sarcoids are a form of skin cancer. You don't want to mess with true sarcoids because sometimes the very action of interfering with them will cause an aggressive growth spurt. But many, many, many, many lumps and pimples and spots and iffy patches are NOT true sarcoids, they are just lumps and pimples and spots and iffy patches and will resolve on their own in time. So when owners slap brussel sprouts, toothpaste, oven cleaner, bacon rind or bat wings on these non-sarcoids, they clear up because they were going to anyway, not because of what was applied.
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Glad someone agrees -A well quoted statement about sarcoids is that ' the only predictable thing about sarcoids is that they are unpredictable'.
The problem is that some sarcoids will regress spontaneously whilst others will markedly proliferate - therefore the fact that Marmite / Vitamin E cream? Brussels sprouts/ extract of Guinea Pig saliva / toothpaste /Guinness etc etc have been applied and the supposed sarcoids have disappeared means nothing.
Why not just be scientific about it, consult a European diplomate with vast experience of sarcoids ie Derek Knottenbelt & get on with treating them appropriately?
 
I have spent a lot of time reading about peoples views on treating sarcoids and yes Liverpool cream often works, but not always, sometimes making it whole lot worse, I would like to know what it actually consists of, this never seems to be mentioned?
Ok so I have used toothpaste and it has worked, I have saved my horse from having to be sedated daily, the swelling and pain associated with Liverpool cream.
My vet has not dismissed this as twaddle, he is very interested in how this has worked so well !
 
Keflavik said:
Have you tried tying a bat wing to your head then dancing naked round an ash tree during a full moon whilst chanting 'Brown girl in the ring' ?
Don't know whether it would do much for the sarcoids but it would be pretty funny - and to be honest it's likely to be as effective as brussels sprouts / toothpaste/ vitamin E cream.
Do your horse a favour & seek veterinary advice re sarcoids.
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Mabe you should read the thread before making your sarcastic comments, her vet is invoved, you on the other hand might like to have a more open mind
 
marydoll said:
Mabe you should read the thread before making your sarcastic comments, her vet is invoved, you on the other hand might like to have a more open mind
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Really? As far as I can see the person I was quoting makes no mention of vet involvement although other subscribers have mentioned veterinary interest / involvement.

Believe me, after 30+ years in the equine industry both here and abroad I am extremely open minded but, as the quote goes ' try to be open minded but not to the point where your brain falls out'

In that there is a large amount of trialled / documented / clinically appraised/ peer reviewed work on treatment / management of equine sarcoids, surely it makes sense to use logical means of treatment rather than to jump onto a comment made on a TV programme relating to human conditions?

Whilst vets may be 'interested in ' the use of Crest toothpaste / Brussels sprouts etc. I suspect that in any case of litigation ( and, believe me - identification & management of sarcoids can become litigious), it would be very difficult to defend the use of non-clinically appraised treatments against those with sound clinical reasoning.
 
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