Doberman needing a new home

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filly190

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I have previously posted a message "constant yapping...." regarding my four year old doberman bitch.

She is currently in kennel and run with her mother and our rotti. She has taken to night time yapping to gain attention and consequently we have had no sleep. My husband is very ill and this situation can not continue, unfortunately she has to go.

We are looking for a new home, where she can be kept indoors, have plently of attention and exercise.

We know the yapping stops when she is in the house, but this is no longer possible as we have parrots.

We have bred her ourselves and she is from top show stock, she has not been spade.

We live in the nottinghamshire area and would ideally like to find someone who would come and visit her, perhaps take her for a walk, and then have her for a trail period before they made a decision. We would want her back if the re-homing was not a success.

She has'nt been out and about very much at all and is very timid. We have plenty of land to exercise her on and so have not spend time going out for walks.

She is not a guard dog, she is a pet but will give a warning bark if anyone comes (she looks the part).

We are very saddened to do this, but feel that we have not got the time to spend sorting her out, and feel that she would benefit from a loving home where she is given the time she clearly needs.

Please dont send me horrible posts, that I should be keeping this dog, we have spent a long time coming to this decision and as I mentioned my husband is very ill.
 
Oh how sad that you feel you have to re home her
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It can't have been an easy decision. I wish I could have her (got 4 dobes already and a huuuuuuge garden) but I'm in the wrong country!
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I'd be gutted if I had to rehome Ulla.
 
Oh No!!
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Is there no chance she could be kept in the Kitchen? Whilst the birds in another room? etc?

Anyways wehat a shame... it seems though that you are thinking about what is best for the bitch and aren't going to place her in an inappropriate home.

I hope you find her the home she needs... I'm sure she'll love the attention she'll get in a new home
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Well done for making ths hard decision.
 
Why does having parrots prevent you from keeping her in the house?
I have a macaw, and we have also had an african grey and several other smaller parrots over the years. Never ever had a problem having both the parrots, dogs and cats in the house together.
 
Unfortunately my dogs, 2 x doberman and 1 x rotti, hunt.

The bitch I am looking to rehome, is a lean mean hunting machine. She has killed all our neighbours stray chickens, rabbits, rats, hedgehogs and even manages to bring birds to the door. Her favourite is digging up moles and rat holes. I could not trust her with my parrots as they are out the cages from am to bedtime. I know the first chance she'd get they would be eaten.

Her hunting instinct is very strong and she spends her entire days "off for the kill". I suspect the night time yapping is foxes and rabbits as well as wanting her buddies to play.

The birds are a fairly new addition to the household and for the sake of our carpets, they have to be kept in the kitchen.
 
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Unfortunately my dogs, 2 x doberman and 1 x rotti, hunt.

The bitch I am looking to rehome, is a lean mean hunting machine. She has killed all our neighbours stray chickens, rabbits, rats, hedgehogs and even manages to bring birds to the door. Her favourite is digging up moles and rat holes. I could not trust her with my parrots as they are out the cages from am to bedtime. I know the first chance she'd get they would be eaten.

Her hunting instinct is very strong and she spends her entire days "off for the kill". I suspect the night time yapping is foxes and rabbits as well as wanting her buddies to play.

The birds are a fairly new addition to the household and for the sake of our carpets, they have to be kept in the kitchen.

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I see. Why would you buy parrots when you know that your dogs instints are so strong? Surely you must have realised that it was going to cause you huge issues in the first place.
 
If the parrots are fairly new additions then why do their needs come before a bitch that you have bred and raised from a pup ? - the solution seems simple to me - either keep the parrots caged or rehome THEM !. If she is quiet when kept in the house then it does not seem to me to be huge problem and certainly not one that requires such a drastic step.

Of the two species the dog is the one that will feel it most if you do go down the rehoming route - she has never known any other home - she is by your own admission quite shy and would find this immensely upsetting - a dog will give you it's whole heart and soul in return for a little kindness - can you say the same about your parrots ?
 
I havent put this post up to be shot down in flames, dont think this board is about this.

I have good reason and dont feel that I should have to keep replying to people explaining myself.
 
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can you say the same about your parrots ?

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Parrots are the same in that they pine etc and don't like to moved around even more than dogs. We can't ever know everything about a situation, but this doesn't sound like a sudden change of heart.

I feel very sorry for your situation, and know how hard a decision it must have been to make.

I apologise for not being able to help, have you tried the doberman rescue?

Emma
 
Thank you Emma, I havent tried rescue. I want to vet a private home and do a trial period so that I can be sure it will work.

Thanks for your support, the messages before you I felt were nasty and aggressive, something I feel is not needed on this board.
 
Thanks for your support, the messages before you I felt were nasty and aggressive, something I feel is not needed on this board.

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Show me where I was aggressive and I will happily apologise. You posted on a public forum - everyone is entitiled to their opinions - if you dont want those opinions you dont need to post.
 
Poor filly190, please dont give her grief, this must have been a hard choice to make, she has made numerous posts in the past to ask for peoples help and advice to cure the problem, she is not only thinking of her ill husband, but of her neighbours who have small kids. She clearly cares very much about the dog, so why not give her helpful advice on who and where she can rehome the dog with instead of making her situation harder by telling her off!!!
 
I am interested and live in Derbyshire. I currently have a Dobie x, terrier and a Springer who all get on well. I have extensive experience of problem dogs and my Dobie x was a rescue with tons of inherant problems.
Can you tell me - does she get on OK with other dogs?
How is she with children?
Off lead?
With horses?
Travelling?
House trained?
Sorry for all the questions but just tryin to get a background picture.
Cheers, Claire
 
Thanks for the post.

Firstly she is very good off lead and does recall. When I have walked the dogs they all come back easily.

I took her to puppy class and she walks to heal etc no pulling. She is fine around horses, our stables are in our garden and she stears clear and does not annoy them. When the horses are stabled she leaves them alone.


Other dogs, she loves to play, but for the past year she has'nt had the chance.

Children, we have not got any. So she has no experience around kids at all. When we have had friends come round with theirs because of safety etc we have always put the dogs away. Our friends kids are little brats and so we would'nt trust them, never mind the dogs and our rotti is too sensitive to trust.

Travelling, she is fine. She jumps in the boot and will wait for you to open boot and put the lead on, no problems of her jumping out. She is'nt travel sick either.

She is house trained and non distructive. Her vice is the yapping at night which is driving us mad.

Hope this helps, we really need someone with a good knowledge of dogs, as you have to bring the best out of her.

Her joy is running and playing, catching things and killing them. I would not trust her around hens. We do have sheep across the road and have kept her on a lead, but she has never shown any interest in them.

We walk (when we do) down to the river and through a field of bulls and she is fine, she does not chase them, she treats them like horses and steers clear. As for the river, she is afraid of water, falling in when a very young pup, so there is no chance she would ever go swimming.

She is'nt fusy with her food and does not fight, have always fed my dogs together.

If you have any more questions, just let me know.
 
I did'nt mean you, I just pressed reply to the other posts above you. Sorry if it came across that way. I was thanking you for your support.
 
not being nasty or aggressive - just genuinely don't understand why the poor dog has to be rehomed
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- if she's quiet in the house then why can't the parrots be either kept somewhere else or restricted to their cage ?.


The noise problem seems specifically linked with her being kennelled and therefore easily solved.

I am aware that this is not what you want to hear but it is nevertheless the truth that having bred this bitch YOU have responsibility for her .
 
I don't think it's quite as simple as that; I mean, I'm sure if it were, Filly would've done it and at least she's trying to find her dog a good home, which I think IS responsible. She's also said she'll take her back if things don't work out after a trial period. I'm sure giving her dog away is absolutely a last resort.
 
Filly, if it is any consolation, I think you are doing the kindest and best possible thing for your dog. What you are planning to do has to have been a VERY difficult decision to come to - I know I had to do the same thing too.

I used to have another collie when I lived in the UK. She was a really lovely little dog and absolutely adored me......however she was very jealous of my old collie and every time I used to leave the property she would attack my old dog. I had her for 4 years and dealt with her "problems", however when we knew we were going to emigrate I decided that the dog was so unstable that placing her in an aeroplane for 7 hours would not be healthy for her mind; therefore I decided to rehome her.

All of my dogs live outside too and this little one I always felt should live in a house, so when I advertised her that was one of the stipulations I placed on the prospective purchaser......along with a number of other restrictions. Well I found the right person for her and he did the same as you are planning on doing - I offered her on a trial basis just to make sure that he was the right person for her - he was!

I am confused as to why anyone on here believes that you should explain yourself. I am intrigued as to why anyone should suggest you completely change the way you live your life by saying that you should bring your dog into your house to live.

My dogs live outside - my choice and one which I believe is far more healthy for my dogs than being stuck in a centrally heated house with no free access to run around outside whenever they feel like it or waiting for hours on end alone whilst their owners are out.

Very best of luck in finding a wonderful home for your dog, which you quite obviously love an awful lot, to even be considering something as totally selfless as you are.
 
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having bred this bitch YOU have responsibility for her

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Absolutely!! Isn't it nice to see someone like Filly who is doing just that! Filly is being a VERY responsible breeder in finding the best possible home for her young dog.
 
Am I living in an alternative universe here folks ? - in my book it is NOT responsible to:
a) breed from your bitch and keep a puppy without being prepared for the additional problems this may cause
b) leave the dog undersocialised and quite probably bored and frustrated so that it develops behavioural problems
c) get additional animals which then stop you from addressing her problems yourself
d) then seek to pass those problems onto someone else !


as far as not changing your lifestyle when you have animals - well surely thats what we all have to do ? - hands up who really wants to get up at the crack of dawn to see to the horses ? but you all change your lifestyle because thats the responsible thing to do !.

She is looking for an 'indoor' home for her bitch therefore she knows full well what the solution to the problem is ! - is she really saying that she is not prepared to have the bitch in HER house but is expecting someone else to - because of her parrots ??????


I'm afraid that Filly is NOT being a responsible breeder but is a perfect example of someone who has bred a litter without the commitment to what she has produced.
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Thank you, I had started to wish I had'nt put the post in. Thanks for defending me, I had begone to loose faith in this board a little.

I have some good news, I went to my pet shop where the owner is a doberman breeder and talked it through with him. He has given me a special muzzel, it is a cloth design and allows the dog to drink and is for wearing at night. He swears this wont allows her to bark, wont cause discomfort.

So I put it on her last night just before bedtime and touch wood it worked. She will only wear it from 11pm to 6am for a few nights to try and break the habit. So tonight I am hoping it continues to work and then the problem will hopefully be solved.

So, I am very hopefull, extremely relieved and feel that we are not at the end of the road just yet. I do love her very much, but sometimes you find you are living with the dog, not it living with you. If we can sort this out it will be the best thing ever.

My far away next door neighbours are a boarding kennels and even they had no solution, so my pet shop owner is at hero status at the moment.

Thanks again for your kindness
 
Now that filly has found a solution to the night barking I'm sure she'll feel more like taking some of the other advice given in this thread regarding exersize and play and individual attention. All that's bloody hard to do when you're stressed, your husbands ill and you've had no sleep! AND can someone explain the difference between rehoming an unsuitable dog in a responsible and careful manner and buying and selling horses when they become too big/small/slow etc?
 
Thanks for that, you have made a very good point. The dog, is no trouble at all except for night time yapping, hopefully I am found a solution and of course will keep her.

Regarding some of the posts I have received, they have been a little judgemental and severe in their opinions. There is'nt room on the board to explain an entire situation, or the need to. I feel this board is about being friendly and helpful. Is it really necessary to shoot someone down in flames without knowing the full story.

Your post is very revelent, we dont go through this debate when we rehome horses, damm good point and something a few others should think about.

Thanks for your support, most appreciated.
 
hi my name is kay.

im kinda new at this but i see that you have a doberman that you can no longer have for good reason. we my partner and i have been looking for a doberman an would love to help.we live in bournemouth and would like you to contact me if you are still looking to rehome your dog. also we both have had experance with dobermans ans other large dogs. so please if you aer still looking then ring me on 07907469923 or e-mail me at kaysexybitch2@yahoo.co.uk.
thank-you.
kay.

p.s i hope your husband gets better as soon as possible.
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hi there,

im not being rude to you but dont you think that in fact filly is in deed being very responsbile as she admits she can not cope with her animal and that she has also told the preson that may want to take her that she has behavment problems so i think you should lay off abit. especaly because it then comes to people like me who are looking for a dog and can help that person who does not want their animal as well as helping us who would like that animal.if you dont like what people are doing then keep it to your self because filly has also expressed that she doesnt want to get rid of her but she realy can not cope therefore if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all.
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