Dodgy horse 'retirement' places.

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I just wondered if anyone else has been through a similar thing - we've all heard of dodgy breeders/dealers, that'll sell you anything aslong as it looks half alive. But has anyone retired a horse to a companion home or somewhere willing to take 'retirements' and found out later its been sold on?

Thinking now it must be quite common but anywho.

Few years ago i put my 6 y/o Irish hunter into retirement as I found out he had Navicular - world shattered, heart broken, career over etc between me and the vet & farrier we decided retiring him would be much kinder at the time than putting him down. He had remidial shoeing with silicone filled middles (which i almost dropped dead at when i found out the cost - thank god for insurance?) and bute 3 times a day. This would mean he was comfortable and pain free for atleast the next 6months - a year. He'd also had nerve blocks put in after x-rays.

I was up there at the crack of dawn, and the middle of the night for months on end before my mum finally decided that enough was enough (i was under 16 at the time) and decided he should be retired to someone who would only want him as a companion or for retirement.

We found a local lady in Staverton, Gloucestershire called Christine Alexander who I emailed and was more than happy to take him on. My parents vetted the yard and she seemed lovely, already having a mish mash of horses, pigs & chickens she'd collected, it seemed like a laid back place.
A few months later he was gone, sold to a dealer called Dilys Van Tromp - who i'm sure in the horsey world to most of us is very well known.
She contacted us via his Passport as our name was still on it and she wondered if we knew he was lame or not. We offered to buy him back at a ridiculous cost for a lame horse - but she never got back to us.

After that, he was sold to a lady down in Somerset - who i found last year, but sadly she'd sold him on to someone. Who, conviniently, she couldnt remember the name of. Hmm..
Needless to say i never found my horse.

I wanted to share that with anyone considering putting a horse into retirement or sending to a companion home. I found out a few months later my insurance would pay out for loss of use for a period of time and by the end of that I could've done the humane thing.



I dont know if anyone knows of any of these people - but if you dont, take the warning & steer clear!
 
you coukd try the tracing section on here i got info on my mare from my post. know this is not relevent to your post sorry :-)
 
you coukd try the tracing section on here i got info on my mare from my post. know this is not relevent to your post sorry :-)


I have tried to trace him :) spent months emailing yards in Somerset, posting on here, & other similar forums. tried tracing equines, tried finding him via his microchip number etc to no result.
 
what a horrible situation. Your poor horse. put some pics on the tracing horses section, you just never know, it only takes one person to recognise him.
I really hope you find him. :(
 
Yes, an all too common story unfortunately.

Retirement 'places' cost money - so if you're not getting charged where do you think the horse is going to end up?
 
yep

thats why i get a little tetchy about these so called charities/rescue centers that pop up on here occasionally ,i was involved in a terrible situation that i would never like to see again as it was heart breaking :(

they basically "rescued" horse/ponies ,cats , dogs , donkeys ,basically anything that moved and stuck it in foal (if it was a mare) then sold the foal and put mare back in foal

if it was a gelding it would stay a while ,until the owners stopped visiting then be put up for sale ,there were mares there with navicular ,terrible conformation and all manner of things that would be pasted on ,weather they were 11"HH or 17HH they were put to the same stallion and a lot of foals were born with deformed front legs due to being far to big

a lot of foals simply died and were burried were they dropped a lot of mares were also lost ,i can still remember vividly a 5 month old foal sticking its head under the water in a bucket it was in such a state ,it had strangle's and couldn't breath i'm sure it was trying to drown itself :( it sadly died a few days later

it was incredibly sad and changed my views of the knackar man" as some of those ^ mares were rescued from the slaughter house ,there are far worse fates than a bullet and the look in some of those horses eyes still brings me to tears :(
 
God that sounds awful Angelish :-(

I would be wary of sending a horse somewhere for retirement unless I was paying them, I'm sure there are places that do cheap livery for retired horses but even so I bet it's hard to get a place. Still, if I had a horses and had the spare room and money I would probably offer a companion home just to be nice, so I'm sure they do exist. I can understand why you thought this lady would be genuine from the way you describe it, but very sorry to hear how it turned out OP.
 
How awful - does the lady in somerset at least know what area he ended up in? Maybe you could start a campaign and create a poster for us to put up in our local tack shops... you just never know. I would be more than happy to do this, I can cover about 4 tack shops in Hampshire....if others got involved we could get the message out to lots of people.

If you want to do this just PM me and I will send you my email address
 
I'm really sorry that this has happened to you but as AM said, if you're not paying for (and keeping ownership of) a horse then you have lost all right to have a say in their future. Harsh maybe and certainly very hard to hear but true sadly.

It's a fact of life that there are many people who only see horses as a commodity, something that has a cash value to be traded. Horses like yours who are young and apparently 'healthy' are especially at risk because it is too easy to pass them off as fit, at least in the short term so dishonest people see them as easy cash. Often the buyer who has been deceived then also passes them on fairly quickly as they have no emotional attachment plus there is the 'embarrassment factor' of keeping the reminder of their no doubt expensive and painful mistake in sight...

And so the horrible downward spiral for the horse starts.

Thank you though for the warnings and I really hope you can find your boy.
 
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This is why it is so important to have a horse freezemarked as anyone can read a freezemark and their is a central database for all horses freezemarked by Farmkey. Microchipping is a waste of time as there is no central database and at least 7 different systems with the scanners of one system not recognising all the other systems.
 
This is why it is so important to have a horse freezemarked as anyone can read a freezemark and their is a central database for all horses freezemarked by Farmkey. Microchipping is a waste of time as there is no central database and at least 7 different systems with the scanners of one system not recognising all the other systems.

No this is why it is so important to wise up and realise that if you can't afford the time and money for a horse you supposedly have an emotional attachment to, then you cannot expect anyone else to!
 
This is why it is so important to have a horse freezemarked as anyone can read a freezemark and their is a central database for all horses freezemarked by Farmkey. Microchipping is a waste of time as there is no central database and at least 7 different systems with the scanners of one system not recognising all the other systems.

does this mean one micro chip scanner can't read all micro chips? can a micro chip be removed?
 
Sorry to hear about your horse OP. I took on a horse with navicular as a companion a number of years ago without payment and must admit it has been costly to look after him. I think you have to very careful if you are not paying and even if you are. Luckily for me I have stayed in touch with the owner and she may now be in a position to take him back. I have looked after him like my own but many others would not. Have had a few people since trying to give me retirement horses but now have to say no.
 
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