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Do any of you have dogue de bordeaux or cane corsa breeds?

if so, what are they like?

good with kids? horses? small dogs?

could they live outside?

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I know a few dogue de bordeaux. All live outside quite happily, real gentle giants that are good with kids. Although all of them were very well socialised from a pup. Not sure about horses though. Although don't have a particularly long life span. Also prone to hip and elbow problems from what I've been told.

The breed standard is currently for review as well.
 
Lady at previous job had a D de B and two small kids and the dog was fine. He lived indoors and again she started socialisation and training very early because of his size.
 
Neighbour has a dogue. Bitch is a sweetie but quite timid. Lives outside and is fine with kids and horses. Feel sorry for her because she is shut in a pen most of the time. Has just had 9 pups "to pay for a new conservatory"
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Agree that the breed has quite a problem with elbow and hip dyplasia.
 
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Neighbour has a dogue. Bitch is a sweetie but quite timid. Lives outside and is fine with kids and horses. Feel sorry for her because she is shut in a pen most of the time. Has just had 9 pups "to pay for a new conservatory"
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Agree that the breed has quite a problem with elbow and hip dyplasia.

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we what ever we have there will be 2 of them to make sure they have company, they will be in kennels in the day, but walks before during and after, plus free roam of the yard at night.
 
This one used to have free roam of the village! So now rather than fence their fields they just keep her shut in most of the time! Good idea to have 2 as company for each other, but don't envy you the feed bill
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D de B are lovely!!! A friend had one but lost him recently - he had been badly treated as a puppy but still a lovely dog with perfect personality. The only thing he wasn't great with was other dogs when out walking - but I think that came from his past rather than breeding - he was perfect with dogs he knew.

When I 'grow up' I'd love one - and can't rate them highly enough.
 
You sound like you simply want a guard dog, why don't you get one of the more "normal" known quantity guarding dog breeds, like a German Shepherd, Doberman etc.
 
I used to groom a lovely DDB - huge lump a' love! However Cane Corso - don't know much about htem. Don't know that they are legal in the UK, so don't get to run in to them much.
 
Dogue de bordeauu in is in the top 10 list for percent of hip dyplasia in the breed so if your thinking of getting one id advise making sure that the parents(and as many ancestors as possible)have had their hips scored as free of the disease
 
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I used to groom a lovely DDB - huge lump a' love! However Cane Corso - don't know much about htem. Don't know that they are legal in the UK, so don't get to run in to them much.

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The four prohibited types in the UK are:

Pit Bull Terriers
Filo Brasilero
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa

More details from DEFRA can be found here...

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/ddogsleaflet.pdf

Or, if you are in Northern Ireland like moi you can get info on dangerous dogs from DARD
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DDB's suffer commonly from bloat, very expensive to put right and they will cost a sh!t load to insure, and have alot of health problems, the cane corso is like a more athletic looking mastiff type with a docked tail, to look at, not sure of any health probs as not seen many, but there is a cane corso rescue on a rescue site I go on, they have alot in.
 
Thanks for correcting that - I don't know why my brain wanted to say they were on that list. As I say, I don't know much about them, if anything.
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You sound like you simply want a guard dog, why don't you get one of the more "normal" known quantity guarding dog breeds, like a German Shepherd, Doberman etc.

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Well German Shepherds are my 1st choice, but I was just considering my choices, but whatever I choose it will hopefully be informed!

I'm a little worried about their health issues, hips problems etc
 
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Well German Shepherds are my 1st choice, but I was just considering my choices, but whatever I choose it will hopefully be informed!

I'm a little worried about their health issues, hips problems etc

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Not sure if Cala will agree with this - but in my experience you'll will find more GSD who's back end will 'go' at a younger age than D de B. Maybe that's because in my time as a VN there were far more GSD's about; its heartbreaking though as essentially you have a dog who is generally healthy in every other way expcept its back legs no longer work. But then with any big breed there are going to be issues - Dobies and Von Willabrams (sp) etc.

What ever large breed you get make sure its really well insured - most practices charge by weight, so if surgery is ever required if costs a small fortune.
 
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Well German Shepherds are my 1st choice, but I was just considering my choices, but whatever I choose it will hopefully be informed!

I'm a little worried about their health issues, hips problems etc

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Not sure if Cala will agree with this - but in my experience you'll will find more GSD who's back end will 'go' at a younger age than D de B. Maybe that's because in my time as a VN there were far more GSD's about; its heartbreaking though as essentially you have a dog who is generally healthy in every other way expcept its back legs no longer work. But then with any big breed there are going to be issues - Dobies and Von Willabrams (sp) etc.

What ever large breed you get make sure its really well insured - most practices charge by weight, so if surgery is ever required if costs a small fortune.

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I grew up with GSD and I have to taken them down the green mile myself, it's their back legs issue that is making me look if any other breeds out there will do!

I should get 7 to 9 years out of a GSD without their bacl legs going, but some people do get more!
 
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Do any of you have dogue de bordeaux or cane corsa breeds?

if so, what are they like?

good with kids? horses? small dogs?

could they live outside?

thanks

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Neither is really my type of dog and I've only met a few, but if I had to choose myself, I would prefer the Dogue de Bordeaux. And that was before I read that Cane Corse is considered to be an intelligent dog breed (at least compared to other Mastiffs) and I'm always wary of that. Intelligent dog breeds tend to attract owners that wants easy dogs to train, but forgets that the clever brain doesn't shut off once you've learned it the basic training things.

I would say none are breeds I would recommend to a first time dog owner, because of the socialization training they need. They are both considered to be good with the family's children, but if good with other children and small dogs etc, is entirely depending on your socialization skills. It needs to meet lots of different small dogs, strange people etc. when being a puppy.


On Dogbreedinfo I found this info about Cane Corso : "Their ears are much more sensitive than the rest of their bodies. Generally, they're practically impervious to pain otherwise, so many Corso owners are often disappointed to find that electrical "invisible fence" containment systems don't deter their dogs."
Though I usually take remarks about so and so breed being impervious to pain with a pinch of salt, I don't quite like the thought of a breed that really isn't that bothered about pain.

Where I live, I'd say we probably have the same weather and temperature as in Scotland and here I doubt either breed would live out 24/7, unless the kennel was heated. But even with a heated kennel, it's not the best breeds to live in kennel because it needs socialization.


And if a breeder with more than one adult dog tries to brush the subject in under the carpet and tells you anything like "No mine never needed any socialization, I bought so and so as an unsocialized adult and look, he/she has no problem", run for the hills! And don't look back.
A breeder with more than one dog can never disregard the possibility of them getting help with the training, socialization from the other dogs. If the other dogs is good role-models, there's a good chance everything will end well.


http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/canecorsoitaliano.htm

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/doguedebordeax.htm


Good luck.
 
My family has had GSDs all my life (at one time my Mum had a big show kennel, never more than 8 - 10 dogs) and I can honestly say have never had one go off its hind legs with CDRM as young as 7. Yes it is a horrible problem in the breed but in my experience it usually affects them at 10 plus. You will of course see far more GSDs with this or hip problems than a comparably rare breed such as Dogues, its just a matter of percentages. Unfortunately no matter how much research you do it is a condition that is hard to avoid as it doesn't show until long after a dog has been bred from
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Just one other thought, regardless of what bred you finally decide upon, is your yard attached to your house, because I think there are (or certainly used to be) laws about leaving guard dogs loose without a handler present so if your yard is on its own you could have a problem.
 
The best Dogue I have seen was Emberez Enferno (shortened name) prolific winner and rightly so, excellent confirmation which meant he could move - apart from that there isn't that much on the show circuit that impressed. There are tons going into rescue at the moment that need good homes.
 
Hiya,

I could not recommend a Bernese Mountain Dog enough. They are beautiful, big dogs, that are so kind, intelligent and the perfect yard dog. They have a right bark on them too :P
 
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What about a belgian malinois? fantastic dogs with very few heath problems.

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Amongst others, I have a Malinois, and I can vouch for them being absolutely fabulous dogs. The saying I heard which really rings true having had GSDs aswell; The GSD will attack and then ask questions - the Malinois will ask questions and then attack! Spot on analogy if you ask me!

I also have two large LGDs - an Akbash and a Maremma. Akbash are very different dogs and I'd probably not suggest anyone without a farm (and no neighbours) ever considers getting one, however Maremmas are a similar type of dog but with a bit more domesticity under their belts. They are predispositioned to being rather aggressive with people coming onto your property without your say so though, so you do have to be careful with them. They are wonderful carers to children however and they will tolerate people/children coming into the household providing you invited them.

If I was you though, I would pick up on Maggiesmums suggestion and take a look at the Malinois as they sound like they would suit your lifestyle perfectly. I have a black one, not accepted in the UK, however cost a fair packet over here in North America
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. I prefer the Malinois over the GSD for many many reasons; they are slightly smaller than GSDs, their health problems are less, and most importantly for me, they react rather than act.

I actually like Cano Corsos. I have never had one however one of my boarders used to breed them and from what he says they sound similar to Maremmas in that they are placid around those they know, however they can become aggressive with those they don't know.

D de Bs - nah couldn't have one of those - they drool! I couldn't ever have a slobbery drooly dog I'm afraid, however if that is what floats your boat, no probs
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