Does anyone anti or pro support this law?

[antiantianti]

This is the fifth condition fopr flushing out a wild mammal with dogs to be legal.

(7) The fifth condition is that—
(a) reasonable steps are taken for the purpose of ensuring that as soon as possible after being found or flushed out the wild mammal is shot dead by a competent person

 

[antihunt]

I voted yes.

I cannot understand why anyone would vote no.

Pros hate animals so why should they object to the law requiring them to be shot.

How can you be an anti if you don't agree with the Hunting Act?

Flushed out aninmals have to be shot for their welfare.

I predict a 100% yes vote

 

[severnmiles]

Against the law. There are times and places where it is not safe to shoot as soon as the fox is flushed.

 

[antihunt]

I can't believe that people are voting no!

Reginald, jess, tegoz please cast your yes votes to bolster the voice of reason.

How can anyone think that it is wrong for anti hunting legislation to require animals to be killed!

 

[severnmiles]

You predict wrong, like most of what you say.

And most pros do NOT hate animals.

 

[antihunt]

Against the law. There are times and places where it is not safe to shoot as soon as the fox is flushed.

If this law had anything to do with public safety then the judge would not have ruled that ten armed men are required in case an entire herd of deer are flushed.

We have to put animal welfare above the risk of killing people.

 

[severnmiles]

One example for you is when the earth is surrounded by those igits called antis, once the terriermen flush the fox (which is free to run at any point with our hunt) it would be slightly irresponsible to shoot the fox immediately when there are maybe horses/people/children and dogs surrounding the earth.

 

[severnmiles]

We have to put animal welfare above the risk of killing people.

You're bonkers. You don't put animals above or on par with people.

If a cat was drowning and a child was drowning but you could only save one, 99.9% would swim to save the child and not the cat.

 

[antiantianti]

One example for you is when the earth is surrounded by those igits called antis,

But if the antis cared about animals then they would have guns and shoot the fox as soon as it was flushed.

 

[severnmiles]

One example for you is when the earth is surrounded by those igits called antis,

But if the antis cared about animals then they would have guns and shoot the fox as soon as it was flushed.

Why? I think its much safer and far less stress for the fox to be shot inside the earth. I'm sure you've been around when a fox has been bolted, its not exactly a quiet affair.

 

[antiantianti]

If the fox is flushed and not shot then it might escape.

 

[antiantianti]

How could anyone thinkmthat having flushed out a herd of deer with dogs all thise deer should not be killed as soon as possible.

Reginald we need you vote to bolster the yes camp.

 

[severnmiles]

If the fox is flushed and not shot then it might escape.

So what, if he does then he was probably a pretty fit and healthy fox.

 

[antihunt]

That's irrelevant.

It is illegal to intentionally allow flushed out animals to escape.

They have to be killed.

Reginald please vote yes!!!

The massive majority of people support flushed out animals having to be killed. Only a mad person would think it should be legal to flush out a deer and just let it escape.

 

[severnmiles]

But what you have just written is totally irrelevent. You did not ask 'Do you all immediately kill any foxes you flush'. You asked if we agreed with the law. The law can often be wrong. I would put animal welfare above the law.

 

[antihunt]

are you saying that people should refuse to kill when the law requires it?

 

[severnmiles]

are you saying that people should refuse to kill when the law requires it?

Yep.

 

[antihunt]

But what if the Government passed a law requiring us to kill people.

Do you think it would be a good thing to break that one as well?

 

[severnmiles]

Yes, of course I do. Anyone who doesn't resemble a psycho would agree with me!

 

[antiantianti]

And do you think that the polioce should refuse to prosecute people who willfully refuse to shoot animals that they flush out with their dogs?

 

[antihunt]

We can't have the situation where people just refuse to obey the law and the police refuse to prosecute them.

 

[severnmiles]

And do you think that the polioce should refuse to prosecute people who willfully refuse to shoot animals that they flush out with their dogs?

If they care for welfare then yes.

 

[antihunt]

But don't the police have a duty to enforce the law?

What you are saying is that they shouldn't enforce laws that they don't agree with.

 

[severnmiles]

But don't the police have a duty to enforce the law?

What you are saying is that they shouldn't enforce laws that they don't agree with.

No, I'm not. Animal welfare is seperate subject. I believe police should enforce the law but often don't. I'll leave it at that.

 

[antihunt]

But the entire basis of the law requiring flushed out deer to be killed is for their welfare.

Surely the massive welfare benefit to a herd of flushed out deer being gunned down in a hail of lead is obvious to anyone.

 

[severnmiles]

But the entire basis of the law requiring flushed out deer to be killed is for their welfare.

Not true. Laws rarely consider welfare.

Surely the massive welfare benefit to a herd of flushed out deer being gunned down in a hail of lead is obvious to anyone.

Humour clearly isn't one of your strong points!

 

[antihunt]

"Humour clearly isn't one of your strong points! "

Are you trying to suggest that this section of the law is some sort of joke?

 

[wizzi901]

old argument (pro's hate animals!), tad wrong there chap, but if you were a pro you would realise most really admire and love the old fox.

 

[severnmiles]

"Humour clearly isn't one of your strong points! "

Are you trying to suggest that this section of the law is some sort of joke?

The whole ban is a joke.

 

[antiantianti]

The whole ban is a joke.

You mean that it requires flushed out deer to be shot for a laugh?