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...have a blood test done to see if a dog is a purebred?

I got my labrador bitch from a yard who rescued her from a puppy farm after it was closed down. Obviously, I don't have papers for her, but I would like to give her a litter before I have her spayed (she is three years old). She has a very good temperament and conformation and is a german lab - in siggy.

I have been told by a friend that this could be done, but I hadn't heard of it before. Any ideas?
 
I don't know about the test, and don't think I am having a go, but having been rescued from a puppy farm, I would not breed from her.

Her background is unknown, so you don't know what hereditary problems she could pass on. If you can't be swayed, I would definitely suggest getting her hips and eyes tested before you breed her as you don't want her to pass on any problems to her puppies.

Like I say, I am not having a go, it's just that puppies aren't selling, rehoming centres are full and I was brought up with a breed which suffers from hereditary problems which should never have been passed on in the first place.

What is a German lab? I just Googled it out of interest and it didn't turn up anything.
 
Ditto HH............not completely sure re blood.......but I would also think twice before breeding from her, and please make sure as other responsible breeder on here, u contract the puppies back to u, labs as a working breed, as not suited to everyone, and they can commonly be destructive, if there needs are not met, so therefor commonly given back, when they become difficult...........therefor u must make sure u have room for possibly 2 adult dogs returned in a 1 or 2 years.

We get alot of labs through our rescue.......and we hand them all to the police, as working dogs.
If she came from a puppy farm, a rescue situation herself, just think, there is every chance her off spring could end up in the same predicament....... u always get an opinion or 2 when posting 1 question
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hope u take it as friendly advice, as it's not a dig
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Not sure what you mean by a german lab, was she bred in germany? you can only get dna done to prove who her sire and dam are, but only if you can get access to to them, which obviously you can't.
Why breed from her at all? just enjoy your doggy. I have had Dobermanns for 26 years and never bred a litter, it is not all that straight forward and i wouldn't want the responsibility. I leave it to the experts. I had a very successful show girl and could have had homes for her puppies no problem as many people tried to talk me into a litter so they could have a pup, but i never did it. I leave it to the experts. I would be scared that anything happened during whelping that i couldn't cope with and anything happened to my girl.
Also for the reasons the other 2 have said. Looking at her, i would say she is a lab but can't comment on her conformation from the pic. To be honest, unless her pups are papered and kc reg, then they won't be worth a lot of money.
I am not having a go either, it is up to you, just giving my opinion.
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I can only talk about the Swedish Kennel Klubb, you can have your dog DNA-tested, but as Chestnut_mare1 says, you need samples from the suspected fathers + mothers to compare it with to. And then even if you get that sorted and you know which stud dog and brood bitch that is your bitch parents, and you're lucky enough that they both have their correct SKK pedigree papers and they fulfill other requirements, then you will still probably, most likely get an answer from SKK saying something like "Yes, DNA confirms that your bitch is the daughter of so and so, but we do not consider her pedigree of enough genetic value for her to be a contribution to broaden the genetic base of the breed and thereby deny your request to register her."

I presume that's what you mean when asking about the DNA-test, to have her registered and get KC papers? Maybe the English KC is easier than SKK, but if they're not, you don't have good odds for being successful and you'll still have to pay for all the tests. Any test for just checking if she's a purebred, in this case a Labrador Retriever, is something I've never heard of so maybe it exist, maybe it doesn't, but I don't see much point in it if it does exist.


I know Optigen in USA does a lot of genetic disease tests, for Labradors they have prcd-PRA & RD/OSD & NARC tests. http://www.optigen.com/opt9_test.html
Don't know if she needs both HD and elbows or if you only need HD X-rayed, but that needs to be done before you go further with your breeding plans. That sort of confirmation doesn't show on the outside.


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Thank you everyone for your replies - don't worry, I have taken it all as friendly advice, not criticism!
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I have had her eyes and hips tested and all is ok. As she is healthy, my vet has suggested that I may want to breed her once before spaying her.

My vet also told me that she is a German type of Labrador as she is slim, as opposed to the English types which are generally more stocky. Aparrantly there are also a couple of other types as well, but I can't remember them. Like a Warmblood, e.g. Danish, Dutch, etc.

I live in the countryside with about 20 acres of land, so there is plenty of room for them to move around and play. I would be keeping two of the puppies and a couple of my friends (all who live in the countryside) and my farrier have said that they would want one - please be assured that I am not doing this to make money!

Thanks for the info about the test, thought i'd ask here before bugging my vet with all my queations. Obviously, as I don't know the parents, I can't have it done. I do have contact with the people who took her sister, and I know that they have bred her and that the puppies were all well and healthy.

Thanks all!
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I have only ever heard of people distinguishing a difference between American and English bred labs and working/show bred labs.

TBH I am quite shocked your vet has suggested breeding from her. You would think most vets advise against it.

What did her hips come back as? Do you have a sire in mind? It so much funlooking at the different stud dogs
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My lab is going to get her hips/elbows/eyes done soon in prep for breeding next year.

Did you get her elbows scored as well? As elbows are now becoming more of a prolem with labs
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Ditto about the vet, wouldn't be something mine would advise. However mine know more about sheep than dogs
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Likewise, I have heard English/German in terms of German Shepherds, but never labradors.

However I defer to the lab expert up here ^^^^

How were her hip scores?
 
cant remember off the top of my head - i had them done last summer - but i know they were good. will have to dig out the paperwork.

didn't get the elbows done tho - wasn't told that i needed that.

no sire in mind yet deffo want a yellow one tho. i keep trawling the website and looking at the gorgeous pics. i do ask megs opinion but she doesn't seen that interested lol.

people keep saying that about my vet - was speaking to another of his clients tho and she said he told her not to breed her dog. oooh maybe he wants a meggie pup?

am really excited!
 
It is good you have had health checks done, though I personally don't agree with your vet that a bitch without papers should have a litter. One thing to bear in mind though, I would think most people standing stud dogs will not accept an unregistered bitch. I certainly wouldn't have done to our dogs.
 
Ah, I just read about having no papers. TBH I would say nearly all owners of stud dogs won't let you use the dog as there are no papers to prove her pedigree, regardless of how good her hips/eyes are.
 
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