Does this sound like lami to you?

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My welsh sec a had lami before i got her so naturally im super careful with her so she doesnt get it again.
The last few days shes been reluctant to move, unusually quiet (normally super hypo toddler like pony :p) and panting almost which we put down to the heat.
Tonight shes very very sore/lame on her front legs and particularly bad on one :( Rang the vets and they said to put her in her stable tonight with some bute and see how she is in the morning and ring them if no change/shes worse.
Im terrified its lami, she did get fat in the winter when i was ill and unable to exercise her. But ive made sure since ive been getting better (very slow recovery) ive been keeping an eye and getting the weight back off her and shes almost back down her her normal weight but still slightly overweight :( Shes on a bald field but has had the odd day in a slightly greener field as my other mare needs the grass and gets a handful of hifi light to keep her away from the other mares dinner.

Please tell me straight as i can't find much on google ect, does it sound like the early signs of lami to you and if so have i done the right thing tonight by putting her in her stable with a deep bed, a little hay and some bute?

Ta in advance x
 
And done the right thing regarding keeping her in, deep bed, etc. I'd have insisted on the vet coming out possibly if it was me personally though.
Have you put some hay soaking overnight ready for her tomorrow?
 
Hate to say it, hon, but it does sound like it.
Two of our TB's have just gone down with it due to pigging out on the very new, and tiny, grass shoots coming through. Most unlikely victims, you'd think, but hey ho.
Good luck with yours - sounds like you've caught it nice and early.
 
If in any doubt keep her stabled as it's not worth the risk. Nice deep shavings bed all the way to door if you can and soaked hay only.

My mare that I lost in 2008 didn't show any real classic signs initially and vets thought it was a abscess, it wasn't :-(

Fingers crossed xx
 
sorry to say but a huge yes. and you putting her into another field with different grass can and will flare her up. also being on bald stressed grass or hard ground is a big no. sounds like she is going to have to be kept in to ease the lami and try and get weight off. bute and x-rays if she is that bad. first fase of lami you dont notice. second fase you start to see something going on. third fase is extreme visable signs. hope you get her sorted. keep us updated.
 
Yes, it does sound like it to me. She will probably still be sore in the morning as it takes time to get better. If it is, you have done what you can tonight, the vet will probably give you more bute and sedaline to open up the blood vessels to her feet. Hopefully with a careful diet and care she will recover. My old pony had it, had heart bar shoes put on and she came sound after a while.
It is a horrible condition which needs ongoing management and hopefully your pony will make a swift recovery.,
 
yes it does sound like lami and you have done the right thing bringing her in. I would soak her hay for at least 12 hours and ask the vet to come and check her. Hopefully it will have eased a bit by the morning, the vet can also prescribe some ACP which improves the circulation to the feet, it does help.

Hope she is more comfortable tomorrow and makes a speedy recovery :)
 
It does sound like it. When my boy was in early signs I was advised by lami trust to feed sugar beet, hi fi lite and formula for feet sup. Soaked hay which was weighed out and a nice deep bed! He soon recovered. Ring them tomora, they'll tell u the quantities u need to be feeding. Very helpful
 
Oh and don't bring him out of stable at all, not even to muck out. He must be kept on a supportive surface!

My girl was a heavyweight cob so was always much poorer prognosis for her as the weight will push their pedal bones down.

The one thing with her that really helped was imprint shoes, they are glued on so no nails going into sore feet xx
 
Agree it sounds like lami - i think that you have been very careful but this weather recently has made the grass surge again so maybe on her bare paddock she got an influx of sugar etc
 
It does sound like it. My mare went very quiet and was breathing heavier than usual but wasn't lame. Like the others have said, stable on deep bed of shavings, weigh and soak the hay. Sending you (hugs).
 
Pls though, don't beat yourself up about it as from what I've learnt horses get laminitis whatever or however they are kept. It's a excuse my language bl***y horrible disease xxx
 
Supertrooper said:
Pls though, don't beat yourself up about it as from what I've learnt horses get laminitis whatever or however they are kept. It's a excuse my language bl***y horrible disease xxx
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Thanks, im trying not to i just feel like ive had my eyes off the ball reacently so that doesnt help :(
Ta everyone, i think she has got lami and will be going up first thing tomorrow morning and if shes still no better calling the vet out.
 
yep sounds like lami to me.

You have done the right thing and to be honest even if the vet came out all they could do would be say box rest, deep bed of shavings and bute.

Even if she seems fine in the morning I would keep her in for at least a week to be on the safe side.
 
The trouble with all this recent rain is it has given the grass a bit of a growth spurt.
Yes, it does sound like lami, and unless told different by the vet, you ought to treat it as such.
Does she have digital pulses in the affected feet?
If mine I would probably insist the vet came and checked her and then the farrier if needed.
 
Supertrooper said:
Pls though, don't beat yourself up about it as from what I've learnt horses get laminitis whatever or however they are kept. It's a excuse my language bl***y horrible disease xxx
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Ditto this. My pony just got laminitis - she has been on a starvation paddock. I have been feeding only the diet the nutritionist told me of Blue Chip lami lite, hifi lite and speedi-beet, my pony was in medium-hard work with long slow hacking, dressage lessons, cross country. I was keeping her fat score right down and you could just see the shadow of her ribs and there was no fat on her crest. I had her on a hoof supplement and shod every 5 weeks to keep her feet balanced. And she STILL got laminitis.

So currently she is on box rest, on restricted hay, starvation rations and is bored and cross and it is b***dy horrible, to echo Supertrooper. And now the vet is saying she might have Cushings or EMS so I am waiting to hear back on the blood tests, poor pony.
 
Yes it does. I put it down to the weather pattern we are having affecting the grass. We have gone (in alot of places) from an abnormally dry, hot spring with little growth to cold days and heavy rain, back to sunshine and high tempretures, which has made the grass peak and flush, pushing up sugar levels, the worst culprit is the very short stressed grass in alot of "diet" paddocks.

You have sone the right thing and I'm sure you've caught it early - don't beat yourself up, it's happening to alot of people at the moment, no matter how careful we all are there is the possiblilty it could happen to any of our horses or ponies.
 
Don't worry, it's managable. Like others have said, deep bed, soaked hay - as much as she can eat. Speedibeet and hi-fi is a good idea. No carrots, apples or anything sweet. A good pro-biotic will help like pink-powder.

I would not give any supplements because lami is a metabolic issue and you must not overload the system at the acute stages as the liver, kidneys are working overtime to clear the body of toxins. I suggest a liver tonic like milk thistle or global herbs d-tox.

Only start supplements after it has settled.

Hope you've caught it early. Look to the hooves for signs of changes in appearance, angle and ridges. If the angle changes at the coronet band, you most likely will have rotation which needs x-rays to determine degree. Then you can work with farrier to correct.
 
aintgotnohay said:
yes sounds like lammi.i had a shetland with this once.had to stay in on shavings,with bran mashes and one slice of hay a day.
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This isn't what is done nowadays - it's not advised you starve a pony with laminitis and is well documented by vets and the Laminitis Trust.

You need to feed high fibre/low sugar i.e. soaked hay continuously.

The risk gastritis is too high otherwise.
 
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